@bobjonkman has a chain wax follow-up:

Q7. Lots of talk about bike chain wax the last few weeks. What does bike chain wax look like? Is it soft like beeswax? Or hard like sealing wax? What tools are needed to wax a bike chain?

My chain needs cleaning, maybe I'll wax it. How difficult could it be?

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@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite A7: The first thing you need to do is _completely_ clean the chain. Obscenely clean.

You can do this with denatured alcohol, fortunately, so it's not that difficult or expensive. An ultrasonic cleaner will help but isn't necessary. Just get it REALLY clean - you've got to get rid of all the petrochemical lubricants AND all the dirt for best results.

What you do then depends upon what kind of wax you're using. If you get a liquid wax like Effetto Mariposa Flowerpower, you can just do drip application like any oil lubricant.

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@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite A7 (continuance):
If you're using a solid wax, then you need to be able to melt the wax and submerge the chain in it. You kind of want to stir the chain in the liquid wax to make sure it penetrates well. (NOTE: I haven't actually done this yet, I intend to tho'.)

There are many good youtube videos on this but it isn't really that complicated? Getting the really good clean is the big part. Once you're to the melted wax stage it's pretty easy. Dip in, let drip back into the pan, let solidify. You can keep all the leftover to use in later waxings.

I strongly recommend Zero Friction Cycling on youtube for picking lubricants in general.

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My chain wax is melted tea-light candles, with a hefty squirt of graphite powder added.

I thought I'd try a zero-cost experiment before actually buying anything, and I absolutely LOVE the results!

I clean the chains with mineral turpentine then methylated spirits, and melt the wax in a saucepan sacrified to the cycling gods.

Edit: I also toss a magnet in the cleaning fluids - you'll be gobsmacked at how many metal bits come out of a new chain

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@lnlyisol @ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite Oooh, great tip on the magnet. I actually have an old hard drive magnet that was sitting next to the wax the last two times, LOL.

@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite SO, I waxed a chain (actually two), and I have to say the waxed chains are superior to lubricated chains, for sure.

I made my own wax mix -- candle wax (paraffin blocks) melted together with beeswax (I have a lot of extra beeswax, as I am a beekeeper). I put it in an old coffee tin and double boiled it over a camp stove outside. Dipped some chains (which had been cleaned, need to remove all the old lubricant). Also have to clean your drivetrain btw.

Anyway, once the wax is melted, you dip the chains in wax (I use some wire so you don't burn yourself... dip it in, pull it out and hang it somewhere until it cools off). Done! (then mount the chain).

It is not difficult, but it does require some time... melting wax... probably 30 minutes to an hour to do it as a project, you can probably do it in less once you have it all dialed in. Or you can get a crock pot and do it that way.

@ai6yr @bobjonkman @bikenite how often would you need to perform this process per chain?
@ascentale @ai6yr @bobjonkman @bikenite the good: (as a long time chain waxer) it lasts just about forever. The bad: until you hit water or rain and then it immediately vanishes. So if you live in the southwest it is perfect. Doesn't pick up dust or dirt doesn't stain clothes lasts for six months.
@smellsofbikes @ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite I haven't re-waxed the two chains I did this way yet... I have no idea. They are still really nice.

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I rode with waxed chains in the SF Bay Area for several years, and did fine with them in wet conditions. The caveat being I did re-wax them several times in the winter, and it was only on road / commuter bikes. If you're doing trail, mountain, gravel a lot in wet conditions, the combination of grit and water is going to eat the wax right off in a hurry.

@ascentale @ai6yr @bobjonkman @bikenite I find my waxed chains begin squeaking eventually and that’s when I take the chain off for rewaxing, usually around 500mi/800km— maybe 2-3 months (at my current riding rate) per chain with zero maintenance between those periods.

Depending on environment, this lasts anywhere between 300-1500km before it starts squeaking. Shorter in the wet and dirty (gravel/xc trail rides), longer in the dry and tarmac. Probably would go beyond 1500km on pure road, but I ride a lot of dirt trails. #BikeNite

@whack @ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite Oooh, thanks, will listen for that!
@bikenite @bobjonkman @ascentale @ai6yr I feel like "waxed a chain" should be a euphemism for something.

@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite I'm lazy so I went the full Silca route a couple of months ago with their cleaner, wax warmer, and wax. Only downside is the coffee filter method to filter the chain cleaner for reuse takes absolutely ages to pass through the filter. Other than that, works great and zero complaints. Totally agree with the other comments that making sure you start with a very clean chain is critical. I bought a handful of new chains and did those in bulk so we have enough for our main bikes and a spare set to rotate in later, makes it super easy.

Also, it's a good idea to pull your cassette off and also give that a good cleaning as well. I didn't on mine but did on hers, and the results are night and day. That's actually on my list for this weekend - pull my cassette off and give it a good cleaning since there's so much residual grease and grime on there from my non-waxed chain.

@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite A7 #BikeNite Most my riding doesn't suit a traditional immersion waxed chain, but I do use a wax-based lube on my fat bike which gets ridden in sandy and relatively dry conditions. I use Squirt.
I firmly believe it's horses for courses when it comes to wax/lube: Your riding and local conditions will dictate what works for you, and what works for one rider (or comes out top in reviews) will be awful for another.
@pete @ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite A7 #BikeNite Squirt is my favorite dry lube as well. It basically repels dirt and lasts for several rides. I'm not sure I see the point in going through the full waxing process. My MTB chains only last about a year anyway since they get stretched. Remember to check chain stretch once in a while.
@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite #BikeNite A7. My advice would be to buy a new chain, if you want to go wax. Cleaning an already used chain doesn’t seem like a good investment of time, effort, and chemicals, to me.

@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite A7. Not sure what it looks like, though I think it's mostly parafin wax. Noting this is all theory, no practice.

Really all you need to wax a chain is a melting pot (e.g. cheap crock pot from the thrift store), a way to hang the chain as it dries, and a cleaning station to get ALL the dirt and grease off the chain. Once the chain is fully clean, drop it in the wax for a spell (hot), then hang above the cleaning pot until dry. Wax can be reused.

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@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite I will note, I believe waxed chains only last ~500 miles, so you need to re-wax somewhat regularly. Most folks I've seen suggest batching a few chains and rotating through them.

@ascentale @bobjonkman @bikenite The chain cleaning is a critical step, and the first time I read the recommended procedure, I had to go and lie down for a while. Fortunately now you can buy pre-waxed chains, which removes the biggest obstacle to waxing. And there are much better chain-stripping chemicals as well. In the future, I’m only buying pre-waxed chains.

Immersion waxing doesn’t last very long—perhaps 300 km, less in the wet. There are drip waxes that are sold alongside immersion waxes that can be used in between immersions to extend that. And there are a couple of immersion waxes claiming much better durability (rex.fi and ceramicspeed).