I love a good mansplain smackdown.
@saramg *chef's kiss* perfect
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I love a good mansplain smackdown.
Meredith Whittaker (@meredithmeredith.bsky.social)

...he says to Signal's president

Bluesky Social
@saramg just wow… it also gives me another account to block on BlueSky (the mansplainer)…

@saramg Geez.

If he was even half as smart as he was confident, he'd not only have realized whom he was talking to, but that Signal doesnt have a business model - or at least not in the sense that the other services he compared it to, do.

That is to say, Signal is funded by charity, and does not have a profit motive (so yeah, like donate if you use it and you can).

@ike
Signal did embrace the cryptomoney fad (and mobile coin is vc funded), and they do rely on popularity for financing (and they do need a lot of money to pay their Amazon google and Azure bills), so it's not that unlikely either that at some point they might follow that trend...

@bohwaz

On the other hand they participated of the development of a cryptocurrency that focused on being private **and** usable by everyday people. In some countries WhatsApp has payements. Private money transfer is something I would welcome (though mobilecoin is a failure and should have been removed a while ago).

Recent commits suggests there will be be a paid subscription for online backups. Seems fair to me.

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/blob/7ee1b1386b6a6d5bf9ff90d6b6e20ec466692b7a/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml#L5335

Signal-Android/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml at 7ee1b1386b6a6d5bf9ff90d6b6e20ec466692b7a Β· signalapp/Signal-Android

A private messenger for Android. Contribute to signalapp/Signal-Android development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
@sgued @bohwaz huh. i might actually consider that
@saramg He hide his account
@gllmr He's again visible, mansplaining even more! @saramg
@saramg apparently the dude doubled down after this
@cyclophora @saramg "Nevertheless, he persisted"
@saramg @soatok Homie doubled down so far up his own ass he's about to chew through to the other side

@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok

yeah non profit equals non revenue everyone knows that duhhh

everyone at every nonprofit goes and digs through dumpsters on their lunch breaks. it is known

@matildalove
It's right there in the contract when you get offered a job at nonprofits that you're no longer allowed to have money in your account! /s
@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok

@matildalove @CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok That’s why most of the team are raccoons

EDIT: shameful typo

@geobomatic @matildalove @CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok The nonprofit I work at is mostly staffed by capybaras. We just graze and make friends with snake.
@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok seems to be the kind of guy that finds shit in his letterbox
@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok if he wasn't so stubborn to accept facts I feel he could be smart. Pride is a terrible obstacle.
@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok @cadey signal cant just rip all their user data and train some shitty llm off it, because they have functioning privacy, so small issue

@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok

In fairness, it could be that Bill Mitchell here (side note, either that's a really unfortunate coincidence of name, or he either is or is impersonating _that_ Billy Mitchell, which would explain everything about his behavior) is taking the (reasonable IMO) stance that while Signal's president isn't lying per se when she says Signal will never have LLM integration, that doesn't mean some factors in the future will not cause it to happen anyway. Cory Doctorow put it much better than I could when he explained why he wouldn't be joining Bluesky: https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulysses-pact/

To summarize that post, Doctorow is on a first name basis with many of the Bsky devs, and he trusts them implicitly. He does not, however, trust that, if push came to shove and a VC made them an offer they couldn't refuse, they still wouldn't enshittify Bluesky if it was that or run out of money and shut down.

Pluralistic: Bluesky and enshittification (02 Nov 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

@AVincentInSpace @CursedSilicon @soatok That thought did occur to me, but young William also said "soon".

@saramg @CursedSilicon To be more charitable than is admittedly probably deserved, "soon" could mean "within the next few months" or it could mean "within the next few years"

I admit that I don't know much about Signal's financials, and that it's probably unlikely that Signal will incorporate LLM support in any timeframe that could be considered "soon" outside of Silicon Valley, but I am significantly less confident than Miss Whittaker purports to be that it will _never_ happen.

@saramg @AVincentInSpace @CursedSilicon @soatok And then he said "already began", so there is no need for a charitable read here. He really *is* one of *those* guys.

@CursedSilicon
I would suggest implementing AI features exclusively for Bill's account

@saramg @soatok

@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok To be fair, he has "the benefit of heighten[sic] pattern recognition", so he can see things that aren't even there, up to and including ~10% of the words in his sentences.

@henryk @saramg @soatok I wonder if he can do the Dilbert guy thing and make people want to bust a nut with just his mind or whatever

Or does he outsource that to LLM's too

@henryk I just recognized the pattern that I should block him. 😁 @CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok
@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok
Imagine being like "I know better than the company's president, actually."

@saramg

My favorite of all time. The Stephen King ones are also *chef's kiss*

@violenteastcoastcity @saramg
πŸ˜‚
😳
so funny and disturbing at the same time
there are so many fools around,
most distressing is that they speak up aloud

makes me wonder, what went wrong with them,
do they miss a gen, are smoked funny things, fell off a table ...

@violenteastcoastcity @saramg Years ago, I was on a meeting where we were discussing options how to implement part of a project. I suggested specific technology, citing a recent project where we did the exact same thing, together with resource and effort estimates. One of the other participants said bluntly β€œThis doesn’t work!”. I said the I just have done it and provided some key details. His response was: β€œYou don’t know what you did! β€œJohn” told me that this doesn’t work!” πŸ˜‚
@saramg It is quite delightful.
@saramg
She is on Mastodon btw:
mer__edith<at>mastodon.world

@saramg
Wow, love this one,

I can't say, but I have to admit that it could happen to me, sooner or later.

I would blush with shame, but laugh at the same time and will thank social media for teaching me lessons so quickly.

@saramg serious question: If signals president would have been male, it would not have been "mansplaining"?
@shupfel @saramg
If Signal's president were a man, the guy likely would've recognized the name and his second comment would have been different accordingly (say, directly calling the president a fool for not chasing "the future", or demanding proof of a negative).
@pteryx @saramg Ah, thanks. I guess I grasp the behavior pattern better than before.
@saramg @Mer__edith has a Mastodon-Account πŸ™‚
@saramg The guy doesn't stop!
@NatureMC @saramg absolutely brilliant. Or it would be if the guy was attempting a comedy bit.
@saramg *chef's kiss* perfect