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@saramg Geez.
If he was even half as smart as he was confident, he'd not only have realized whom he was talking to, but that Signal doesnt have a business model - or at least not in the sense that the other services he compared it to, do.
That is to say, Signal is funded by charity, and does not have a profit motive (so yeah, like donate if you use it and you can).
On the other hand they participated of the development of a cryptocurrency that focused on being private **and** usable by everyday people. In some countries WhatsApp has payements. Private money transfer is something I would welcome (though mobilecoin is a failure and should have been removed a while ago).
Recent commits suggests there will be be a paid subscription for online backups. Seems fair to me.
@CursedSilicon @saramg @soatok
yeah non profit equals non revenue everyone knows that duhhh
everyone at every nonprofit goes and digs through dumpsters on their lunch breaks. it is known
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In fairness, it could be that Bill Mitchell here (side note, either that's a really unfortunate coincidence of name, or he either is or is impersonating _that_ Billy Mitchell, which would explain everything about his behavior) is taking the (reasonable IMO) stance that while Signal's president isn't lying per se when she says Signal will never have LLM integration, that doesn't mean some factors in the future will not cause it to happen anyway. Cory Doctorow put it much better than I could when he explained why he wouldn't be joining Bluesky: https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulysses-pact/
To summarize that post, Doctorow is on a first name basis with many of the Bsky devs, and he trusts them implicitly. He does not, however, trust that, if push came to shove and a VC made them an offer they couldn't refuse, they still wouldn't enshittify Bluesky if it was that or run out of money and shut down.
@saramg @CursedSilicon To be more charitable than is admittedly probably deserved, "soon" could mean "within the next few months" or it could mean "within the next few years"
I admit that I don't know much about Signal's financials, and that it's probably unlikely that Signal will incorporate LLM support in any timeframe that could be considered "soon" outside of Silicon Valley, but I am significantly less confident than Miss Whittaker purports to be that it will _never_ happen.
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I would suggest implementing AI features exclusively for Bill's account
My favorite of all time. The Stephen King ones are also *chef's kiss*
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so funny and disturbing at the same time
there are so many fools around,
most distressing is that they speak up aloud
makes me wonder, what went wrong with them,
do they miss a gen, are smoked funny things, fell off a table ...
@saramg
Wow, love this one,
I can't say, but I have to admit that it could happen to me, sooner or later.
I would blush with shame, but laugh at the same time and will thank social media for teaching me lessons so quickly.
@saramg On one hand, looking at the complete thread, I see this Bill is just an AI-enthusiast and thinks AI is something so obvious that will be the future, doesn't matter what people thinks today, doesn't matter if it's the president.
On the other hand... despite all things, Signal had their mishaps in the past, like the introduction (and removal) of the MobileCoin cryptocurrency. From this point of view I don' think an AI integration in Signal is unlikely, despite what the president says. They just need a reason to justify it that people would accept.
But, let's say, they want to improve accessibility for blind users, then there is something to justify. It could be a image description AI model that runs in-device. It's AI, but it's private and useful for a11y. Just an example.
@saramg "But they said LLM, not AI". Sure, but that was just an example. They just need to find some reason to add some LLM-based AI. I cited that example because the usage of AI-related tech for a11y is something that I really like.
I talk with illiterate people a lot - like old people who never got a chance to go to the school - and they always use audio messages. I also know some people that are deaf. I think those two groups should be able to communicate with each other.
There are shady apps that transcribes audio on a cloud (where user data is certainly being used to for AI training) and I know some of those groups use those apps because those are the only option until private messaging apps implement those things themselves. Well, I use Whisper on my PC, but it's not practical.
@saramg I’m legitimately unable to cross the chasm of lived experience to get into the head of someone who thinks this would even be a good idea.
I actually find LLMs useful in specific, qualified contexts, and don’t unilaterally hate AI, but people like this keep reminding me how unhinged the “true believers” are.
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