J   Jun 10, 2025

"..Donald Trump received 750,000 more votes than Republican Senate candidates in those same districts. That’s not just voter preference. That’s a statistical impossibility."

https://dailyboulder.com/report-voting-machines-were-altered-before-the-2024-election-did-kamala-harris-actually-win/

#ElectionFraud #CheaterDon #USPol

Report: Voting Machines Were Altered Before the 2024 Election. Did Kamala Harris Actually Win?

In the lead-up to the 2024 presidential election, a private lab quietly performed sweeping changes to voting machines used in more than 40% of U.S. counties. No one told the public. No one reviewed the updates. No one verified the results. But the machines were altered —and now, serious questions are being raised about whether those changes may have affected the outcome of the election. Some are even asking whether Kamala Harris was the one who actually won.

The Daily Boulder
Show thread🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Jun 10, 2025

@j

"So Did Kamala Harris Actually Win?"

Did the biggest cheater, cheat?

https://thedigestonline.com/news/rockland-county-election-lawsuit/

Judge Allows Election Lawsuit to Proceed in Rockland County

A lawsuit is unfolding in Rockland County, NY challenging the results of the 2024 election in districts where statistical anomalies occurred.

New Jersey Digest
Show threadMemphisDaPlaya 🎲🎲Jun 13, 2025

@unruly

I wish someone would make an effort to find out. I'm a lifetime Democrat since 1968 and a former county elected official.
I've never seen the party this weak and unmotivated at the national level. If Bernie Sanders is actually earnest, he would start his own party, not fart around with a party he actually hates.

Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES

@GoatRoper @unruly

the problem is, since we're not a parliamentary system nor do we have ranked choice voting, what you're suggesting just divides the left and MAGA wins more

so we are stuck with the need to treat the democratic party as an empty vessel and take it over

third parties are not the way as a matter of what is functionally possible

Jun 13, 2025 at 2:14amWeb
Show thread🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Jun 13, 2025

@benroyce @GoatRoper

No argument. There has to be a way though to become more principled.

Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025

@unruly @GoatRoper

you don't try to convince some spineless centrist democrat

you replace them

that requires massive turnout in the primaries and the midterms

the problem is all of these "third party" or "no vote" types don't see how they play into making sure the democrats continue being spineless. because they don't fucking show up. they want to blame blame blame

when the real blame lies on nonvoters and third party voters

we *need* to take over the party

it is the only way

Show thread🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Jun 13, 2025

@benroyce @GoatRoper

👍

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper
Hi. I'm an Independent. I have voted in every election I could - federal. state and local - since the 70's. Don't blame me.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025

@SueDiOh @unruly @GoatRoper

if you vote i have absolutely nothing against you. i embrace you

it's the nonvoters and the fools who don't understand the american voting system who cling to the fantasy of third party that are killing the left

we can get third party when we get ranked choice voting. *before* that, they're dividing the left and guaranteeing more MAGA wins in our stupid bleeping FPTP system

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper Just because we're Independent doesn't mean we don't vote!!!! How many registered Dems didn't vote in 2016? in 2024?
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025

@SueDiOh @unruly @GoatRoper

exactly the problem

nonvoters are as bad as MAGA in killing this country

that doesn't mean "support spineless centrist democrats" it means show the fuck up in the primaries and midterms to replace them

that is the *only* way

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper Exactly! Vote for the best candidate, not who someone else tells you to. See, that's Independent.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025

@SueDiOh @unruly @GoatRoper

the problem is the toxic idealism on the left, or the purposeful social media psyop campaign to appeal to this character weakness in many on the left: "the choice is between good and bad but i want perfect, so i'm not voting." which only works to bring us bad. if they had an ounce of thought or honesty they would see how this functionally works to bring to power fascism, and how they are being manipulated to step aside and let it happen, and they would vote

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper There's a problem with our system when people like Lauren Boobert and Matt Gaetz get elected to federal office. I suspect the problem is money. And neither party has done shit about that. Dems had a trifecta too, under Biden.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025

@SueDiOh @unruly @GoatRoper

sure but again the question: so what is the path forward to better?

take over the democratic party

the complaints about the existing spinelessness are not an argument against what *we* can do with the party, and 3rd party just divides the left and gets more MAGA wins. so we *have* to take it over, it's the only path forward

if we just fucking show up in the midterms and primaries

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper D's will never vote for R's and R's will never EVER vote for D's so we need a third party. A centrist party. But there's a lot more to fix than that. Corporate media has failed us in a BIG way. Campaign seasons are too long. Campaign finance reform is sorely needed. And we need a faster way to remove the ones who fail their oaths that doesn't require waiting until the next election. And not sure pres should get to appoint an entire cabinet, or more than 2 SC judges.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025

@SueDiOh @unruly @GoatRoper

absolutely 1,000% no

centrists are spineless impotent milquetoast

we need to shove the democrats further left by mobbing the primaries and midterms

and again: a third party just divides the left and MAGA wins in our stupid voting system

respectfully, i can not possibly disagree more with your comment

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper You're free to. And I disagree with yours.
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025
@SueDiOh @unruly @GoatRoper if we all agreed life would be boring. I respect you, and it's not only fine that we disagree I am happy for it, for that is how it should be. Neither of us are forcing the other and neither of us are having a freak out. Respect
Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper That's what it's all about. ☮️
Show threadFlowermobJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @SueDiOh @unruly @GoatRoper I wish you could explain that to the moron who is flaming me on Reddit because I am not left enough or doctrinaire enough or interested in their special interests enough. I am so tired of people who know everything but have experienced very little.
Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@Flowermob @benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper That's likely a troll. They're sowing division. They want a civil war. They want American blood in the streets. Stay strong. You are free.
Show threadFlowermobJun 13, 2025
@SueDiOh @benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper maybe or just a misguided person who doesn’t understand that politics is not a purity competition and that even good people have to do or approve bad things in order for any progress to happen.
Show thread🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Jun 13, 2025

@Flowermob @benroyce @SueDiOh @GoatRoper

It does seem more and more to be the case that the inexperienced, those who never came up through the school of hard knocks, who never paid their dues, know it all.

Show thread🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Jun 13, 2025

@Flowermob @benroyce @SueDiOh @GoatRoper

The failed businessman is a business genius. Fake bonespurs draftdodgers are strongmen. The grifters are for us. The evil are the good. It's a con.

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@unruly Yes and he's been doing that since the 70's, and most of GOP leadership is older than me, so they all knew it too.
Show thread🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Jun 13, 2025

@SueDiOh @benroyce @GoatRoper

Pardon my Canadian naivety. Why independent?

Show threadSueDiOhJun 13, 2025
@unruly Because neither party represents me. They're both pretty shitty, imo.
P.S. Stay strong, Canada. You are the world's best neighbors. ❤️ 🇨🇦
Show threadRiaResistsJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper
100%
Disappointing, maybe it’s just SM showing me how many people completely take #democracy for granted.
NO-ONE is entitled to #democracy
You have to participate.
And listen, consider other points of view.
This isn’t your lover. You will never hear the words you want to hear.
Get over that.
We could have #PresidentHarris right
now 😢
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025

@RiaResists @unruly @GoatRoper

Don't forget that a lot of the voices you hear championing third party and not voting is a purposeful psyop to suppress and divide the left. The same troll farms, maybe even the same trolls, then go into their other cosplay accounts with different fake bonafides and goose MAGA to show up to vote

Not all of these accounts, the toxic idealism on the left is real, but don't be depressed by all of the foolishness out there, a lot of it is fake

Show threadRiaResistsJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper I’m talking about people in my life.
A few of them.
They’re stuck on something that’s obsessive & out od touch w reality.
Started & remains w Bernie Sanders.
And I know too many who are either burn it all down now, or dont feel obliged to care at all.
I do see a lot on SM & usually assume it’s a troll
Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESJun 13, 2025
@RiaResists @unruly @GoatRoper what do you mean "started and remains with Bernie Sanders"?
Show threadRiaResistsJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper
2 friends of ours became Berners in 2016. And it just seems that path has taken them down the “both sides are the same”, 3rd party, burn it all down,
etc, very similar with a couples friends very adult children- and actually I know quite a few in that mindset.
They won’t vote & have spite voted down the ballot. Won’t protest… will complain and feel we all owe them
I hope this makes sense.
Pretty tired & shouldn’t be responding on social media.
Show threadRiaResistsJun 13, 2025
@benroyce @unruly @GoatRoper also I get that the word “entitled” is triggering because none of us wants to look at that in ourselves.
But I get a huge sense of that.
Show thread🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Jun 13, 2025

@RiaResists @benroyce @GoatRoper

I'm no expert in America's politics.

I still think Kamala would have made a great President. Yet, as you say, it all depends on having a democratic participatory culture. Vile is the essence of the fascist opposition and that's not changing. We live in troubled times.

Show threadRiaResistsJun 13, 2025
@unruly @benroyce @GoatRoper she would’ve been a great POTUS.
Maybe she still will in the future.