White people today: the protesters in LA are hurting their own cause, they should be like MLK and the Civil Rights Movement!

Meanwhile, white people during the Civil Rights Movement:

@spencerbeswick Yes, but this narrative of violence became harder and harder to sell the longer they stuck with peaceful civil disobedience. In the end you are striving to change the minds of enough to allow change to happen. Remember women fought for the right to vote and got it when they convinced enough white men with beards to vote for it. Leveraging the political system takes time, courage, alliances and consistently refusing to take the government bait to use violence.

@Robo105 @spencerbeswick here’s the thing: violent methods of resistance is another tool, another tactic/strategy in resistance just like non-violence

We don’t actually know if primarily non-violent resistance works better regardless of context, because whether or not non-violence is better is just as dependent on context as whether or not violence is better.

@Robo105 @spencerbeswick Activists have been arguing about this since probably-forever and there isn’t enough convincing evidence to show if either non-violent or violent resistance is “better” overall… probably because, at least to me, asking which one is “better” without any context is asking the wrong question
@medusaskirt @Robo105 @spencerbeswick It’s funny that those who are entirely opposed to violent protests never talk about the White Rose group in Nazi Germany, or non-violent protests in Pinochet’s Chile, or, while referencing Tiananmen as an example of repression, skip over the massacre of peaceful protestors… It’s always MLK and Gandhi, both of whom were murdered…
@Tattered @medusaskirt @spencerbeswick Yes, Gandhi was kill by a radical Hindu and MLK by a racist. Nobody would suggest that it was safe or easy but civil rights happened and India did not descend into a civil war like Algeria. White Rose were brave children in a totalitarian dictatorship during a global war. Pinochet lost power due to the 1988 plebiscite. Right now the National guard is using rubber bullets so there is time to build a coherent and compelling narrative to woo the public.

@Robo105 @medusaskirt @spencerbeswick I think you somewhat overlook the Partition of India, and the subsequent human rights abuses…

I’ll leave this conversation with the reported last words of Rosa Luxemburg: “Which prison are you taking me to?”

Bon chance.