Randahl FinkWhile Trumpβs masked soldiers are at war with civilians in Los Angeles, an endless line of tanks arrive in Washington DC for Trumpβs military parade.
The dictatorship vibe is through the roof.
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Just Joshin@randahl
Trump's "masked soldiers" are not at war with civilians.
They are at war with invaders. Non citizens that broke the law to get here.
As for dictatorship vibes, I am old enough to remember this guy:
Trump's "masked soldiers" are not at war with civilians.
They are at war with invaders. Non citizens that broke the law to get here.
As for dictatorship vibes, I am old enough to remember this guy:
π π π§Trump sending the national guard, without the permission of the governor, to brutalize a couple of dozen protesters and deporting people without due process isn't fascistic to you, but a picture of Biden that looks kinda scary is setting off your (clearly broken) fascism alarms?
How stupid are you?
@Radical_EgoCom @randahl
Smart enough to read.
The post that I was responding to referenced "Trumps masked soldiers." This is an obvious reference to ICE, not the national guard. That is why I said that they were at war with foreign nationals that broke the law to get here.
The picture of Biden was an obvious response to the original post's insinuation that a military parade to celebrate the the 250th anniversary of the army was scary.
The national guard in Cali was not being discussed.
Smart enough to read.
The post that I was responding to referenced "Trumps masked soldiers." This is an obvious reference to ICE, not the national guard. That is why I said that they were at war with foreign nationals that broke the law to get here.
The picture of Biden was an obvious response to the original post's insinuation that a military parade to celebrate the the 250th anniversary of the army was scary.
The national guard in Cali was not being discussed.
@Radical_EgoCom @randahl
That said, if you want to discuss the national guard in California, Trump is not the first President to call up the national guard without the governor's wishes.
The first time that happened was in Arkansas in 1965.
I am sure that you are ready to condemn that as fascistic since it was also against the wishes of the governor.
That said, if you want to discuss the national guard in California, Trump is not the first President to call up the national guard without the governor's wishes.
The first time that happened was in Arkansas in 1965.
I am sure that you are ready to condemn that as fascistic since it was also against the wishes of the governor.
@Radical_EgoCom @randahl
As for the remark that there are only a couple of dozen, the California police must be extremely incompetent if they can't stop a couple of dozen people from setting fires and looting businesses.
As for the remark that there are only a couple of dozen, the California police must be extremely incompetent if they can't stop a couple of dozen people from setting fires and looting businesses.
@joshua @randahl
I literally can't find anything about the president sending the national guard to Arkansas in 1965. The only thing I could find about the president doing such a thing in relation to Arkansas was in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957 in order to enforce the federal court orders of desegregation, which, for obvious reasons, I wouldn't call fascistic. 1/3
I literally can't find anything about the president sending the national guard to Arkansas in 1965. The only thing I could find about the president doing such a thing in relation to Arkansas was in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957 in order to enforce the federal court orders of desegregation, which, for obvious reasons, I wouldn't call fascistic. 1/3
@joshua @randahl
Also, to clarify, I don't think what Trump is doing with the national guard is fascistic specifically because he overrode the goverors authority, since that is something that the president can legally do in extreme emergencies. The reason I'm calling it fascistic is because this is no huge emergency. It's about 2,000 people or so protesting in a Home Depot. It doesn't meet the criteria necessary to enforce the Militia Act of 1903. 2/3
Also, to clarify, I don't think what Trump is doing with the national guard is fascistic specifically because he overrode the goverors authority, since that is something that the president can legally do in extreme emergencies. The reason I'm calling it fascistic is because this is no huge emergency. It's about 2,000 people or so protesting in a Home Depot. It doesn't meet the criteria necessary to enforce the Militia Act of 1903. 2/3
@joshua @randahl
California Gov. Gavin Newsom had already confirmed that local law enforcement were already mobilized and ready to deal with the situation. The excessive use of violence against a relatively small protest is what I'm calling fascistic since this is what fascism is known to result in. 3/3
California Gov. Gavin Newsom had already confirmed that local law enforcement were already mobilized and ready to deal with the situation. The excessive use of violence against a relatively small protest is what I'm calling fascistic since this is what fascism is known to result in. 3/3
@Radical_EgoCom @randahl
The 1957 one is the one I was referring to. I was going off memory when I said 1965.
A couple of dozen quickly grew to 2000.
And regardless of what Newsom says, they were not stopping the violence. Stores were being looted, fires were being set, and people were getting hurt.
Newsom was not stopping it. Trump did.
The 1957 one is the one I was referring to. I was going off memory when I said 1965.
A couple of dozen quickly grew to 2000.
And regardless of what Newsom says, they were not stopping the violence. Stores were being looted, fires were being set, and people were getting hurt.
Newsom was not stopping it. Trump did.
First off, Trump hasn't stopped anything yet; the national guard are basically just getting to LA.
Second, Trump hasn't even waited to see if the LA police could handle the situation themselves before deploying the national guard. He just declared that the situation was too much for the LA police to handle without any evidence and sent them anyway. This is all just a spectacle to show off his power and intimidate people into not protesting against ICE.
θ³’ι²γΈγ§γ³γ@Radical_EgoCom @joshua @randahl Trump uses the military on citizens - don't forhet the George Floyd & BLM protests in Portland.
The military and National Guard were used to varying degrees against the George Floyd Protests, the most notable deployment being in Washington, D.C., where the National Guard was activated to support local authorities, and in some cities like Minneapolis and Los Angeles, where National Guard units played a significant role in crowd control. The use of the military and National Guard was limited, usually being avoided in favor of local police and state authorities.
@Radical_EgoCom @kenjen @randahl
My response was to the message of Trump using the military against civilians.
In which of those cases that you just named did Trump call up the National Guard.
My response was to the message of Trump using the military against civilians.
In which of those cases that you just named did Trump call up the National Guard.
June 1, 2020, protesters gathered near Lafayette Square, just north of the White House, and clashes with law enforcement occurred. In response, President Trump directed the activation of the National Guard in Washington, D.C., to assist with crowd control and to help restore order.
@joshua @Radical_EgoCom @randahl Unnamed Militarized Federal Agents...with regard to Portland. Either way, it was a dictatorial use of federal forces against protetors in stark opposition to state and city governments' wishes.
Whether or not he is openly bragging about what agency he's sending or not, it's still snatching people off of the street using Federal Agents. We can debate the difference between law enforcement and military all day and get nowhere.
Stargeezer Smith@Radical_EgoCom @joshua @randahl
I'd say don't underestimate the commitment and ingenuity of protesters.
I'd say don't underestimate the commitment and ingenuity of protesters.