Self hosting your own media considered harmful (according to YouTube...). https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/self-hosting-your-own-media-considered-harmful
Self-hosting your own media considered harmful | Jeff Geerling

Update: YouTube has just reinstated the video, after what I presume is a human review process. I wish it didn't take making noise on socials to get past the 'AI deny' process :(

Go forth, and self-host all the things! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hFas54xFtg

I replaced my Apple TV—with a Raspberry Pi

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

YouTube

@geerlingguy nice!

Btw, is Nebula of interest to you? I know @notjustbikes uploads there and a few of his videos can only be uploaded to Nebula due to YouTube's corporate-first fair-use policy. (Such as his "Samsung City" video)

@chris i spoke with Nebula a bit when I was looking into it vs Floatplane. I liked the consumer/user side more (except the lack of comments), but not the creator side.
@geerlingguy good to know, thanks for responding. When I was interviewing with them, I did bother their devs about comments, hehe. They're well aware it's the #1 most requested feature, but they don't want to deal with comment moderation and don't think it adds much value to the platform.
@chris @geerlingguy I’d love to see somebody setup a Lemmy instance for their channel there and link to a post for each video.
@geerlingguy Speaking of self hosting. Backups are an interesting topic.
@geerlingguy This whole saga reminded me I needed to rebuild my RPi5 LibreElec box so I can get my ripped media to play correctly (because AppleTV can't).

@bedast @geerlingguy tried infuse on the appletv?

Might have to pay for it depending on which features you need

@Dragon i have it, it's pretty good

@Dragon @geerlingguy AppleTV doesn't support TrueHD with Atmos nor audio passthrough so the best Infuse can do with ripped blurays is extract the TrueHD PCM audio and play it without the Atmos metadata. Infuse is good if you don't care about this.

LibreElec doesn't support Dolby Vision, but it does support HDR10. With audio passthrough, you get a pretty good audiovisual experience from bluray rips.

@geerlingguy except that its the second time this has happened. and some of us (me in this situation) make content about this stuff all the time and dont have your clout.
its extremely concerning.

@geerlingguy

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Self-hosting your own media considered harmful (to Google's bottom line).

FTFY, Jeff!

@geerlingguy What's next? Showing how to install a non-chrome-based browser??
@dmynerd78 @geerlingguy
Rather, any browser that is not Google Chrome, I doubt that they care about the engine as much as about keeping users in the ecosystem.
@dmynerd78 @geerlingguy whoa whoa whoa, lets not get crazy here!!

@michaelgraaf Not sure why it's doing that. I uploaded as .mov accidentally, then I updated the file name to .mp4, and it was briefly playable, but now shows that 'can't be played' message.

If you click the file it works though.

@geerlingguy And Streisand effect happening cause I didn't know about it, now I'll be sure to check it out!

@geerlingguy BuT yOu rIpPeD tHe pHySiCaL dIsCs aND bRokE thE cOpyProtection. the only true legal way is to build something like a remote controllable jukebox for all types of media!

btw, I didn't got the "car suffix rhyme" reference :(

@utf_7 @geerlingguy In Sweden it is legal to break the DRM on disks(music, dvd) if you only use it for personal backup. However, it is not legal to break DRM for games. I'm unsure if this applies to blueray, as laws seem to change per media.

@utf_7 @geerlingguy Yup also my suspicion: under DMCA, by passing a protection is illegal, even if the encryption is equivalent to "ROT-13, now with double rounds for moar protection!".

So probably Google uses that as an excuse to have AI bots auto scan video's audio track for mentions of "ELEC", "JellyFin" and the like.

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@utf_7 @geerlingguy ...

And to give instructions to the poor underpaid/overworked reviewer in some 3rd world country that if the 0.5sec excerpt they got contain those names, they MUST click "appeal reject" (and MUST process 10000 such 0.5sec clips per day to meet the quota for their meager pay).

The cherry on top being that (as others mentioned in the thread) this helps Google kill potential competitor to the time users sink into YouTube.

@geerlingguy we have a European Commission sponsored project https://fediversity.eu that tries to find a way out of the “golden handcuffs” situation, but it is a tough problem.

Of course the reason for Google to be able to pay that much money is that they unfairly profile the hell out of your viewers. It seems that there is no “fair” way to give you a decent living without extorting the personal data of 100’s of 1000’s of people.

A project like @Taler might help here, yet the mental barrier for actually actively giving money for content when so much of it is available (seemingly) for free is quite high. Even for people that completely get the unfairness of the situation.

Would you be interested in doing some experiments? Like us hosting a peertube server for free under the project and adding taler to it for micropayments?

Fediversity

@geerlingguy self hosting is a radical act
@tootbrute It does genuinely feel like that at the moment. @geerlingguy

@geerlingguy regarding the PeerTube part of that post:

And what about releasing on multiple platforms? E.g.: keep releasing on YouTube for the big viewership that sponsors like, while at the same time also upload to PeerTube (and maybe an extra YT competitor like Vimeo) as a backup for situations as this one?

Or is it something that YouTube would punish you for?

@geerlingguy this is why we PinchFlat! I can’t imagine what it’s like to be dependent on YouTube for income. It must be like living with an abusive partner. You never know when they’re going to push you down the stairs.

@andy_warb

Fab analogy, especially with Google's history of killing off apps and services, leaving users scrambling for alternative solutions; you never see that coming either…

@geerlingguy

@geerlingguy would it be feasible to start a Peertube channel in parallel with the Golden Handcuffer? Honestly I don’t want to be Joe Random Internet Guy demanding that you do more work. I’m asking in the hopes that you could re-use much of your video on Peertube, so that it isn’t so much more work.

You’re influential. People see a guy like you making a move, maybe more will follow, maybe a critical mass will … Well you know how this stuff works, who’m I telling?

@geerlingguy Why is it that every video hosting service eventually devolves into shit?

@geerlingguy is nebula any use as a backup/secondary to YouTube?

Have no idea how the revenue model works there, I presume less than floatplane given you don't subscribe to individuals

@geerlingguy
Another case of "Homefucking Is Killing Prostitution"
@geerlingguy Siri: give me an example of how all <waves vaguely> this is just awful now....
@geerlingguy I’m sorry you’re dealing with that. Your blogpost also highlights why just tell everyone to go to self-hosting and or other options sometimes aren’t sensible. Many people make money via Big Social and unless others are ready to provide for the loss in income they could keep their opinions and judgment to themselves
@geerlingguy I think also it’s very difficult to discover the content in the fediverse. I know you from YouTube but I wouldn’t have a clue in how to to get to you. And discovering something on YouTube to find out where to go in the fedi is kind of missing the point 😅
self-hosting your own media is harmful... to YouTube.
@geerlingguy Oh wow Google must be shaking in their boots! Self hosting has gotten pretty accessible and people are looking around at all these inflated subscriptions and realizing a few things. I for one am excited about finishing up moving off their cloud once I finish up my NAS setup!
@geerlingguy found this article on hackernews. Just wanted to butt-in and say that even though you don't necessarily make money from PeerTube, its a really great idea to mirror your content there and other places to support & enable fans who like your content but don't/wont use Youtube. There are plenty of alternative video platforms picking up steam these days
@geerlingguy Honest question - how is putting your video up on the Internet archive bringing in the funds better than Peertube?

Isn't the monetization issue here self fulfilling?
@geerlingguy geez. YT at it again. I'd thought hosting a #peertube instance would be right up your street?
@geerlingguy YouTube will periodically penetrate my uBO + uMatrix shields and inform me that I'm in violation of their TOS. They can do that as much as they want. They can ban me for all I care; I stopped relying on Google after they killed Reader. I will block YT before I un-block their garbage.