Firefox's potential bankruptcy highlights the need for a stable solution for opensource software. Many projects utilized by millions of users depend on unpaid volunteers seeking donations through "buy me a coffee" buttons. This approach is not sustainable.

https://www.theverge.com/news/660548/firefox-google-search-revenue-share-doj-antitrust-remedies

Firefox could be doomed without Google search deal, says executive

Mozilla CFO Eric Muhlheim testified that Firefox could run out of business should a court prohibit Google from entering revenue share deals to be the default.

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@alberto Firefox has been using Google millions to enrich its executives while enshitifying its products for literally decades. It should be seen as simply an adjuct of a monopoly (Google). There are certainly useful business models for open source projects. Mozilla's imminent demise is not an open source problem, its a management / leadership problem.

@jeffmcneill @alberto I've made this napkin calculation before, but let's go over this again:

Mozilla employs about 1000 people [1]. Let's just assume that they're all working on Firefox development and earn $100k annually. That gives us a personnel cost of $100M a year.

Meanwhile, up to 200M people still use Firefox [2] and the Google deal gives Mozilla an income of around $500M annually (although this income varies) [3].

Knowing that personnel costs are the biggest cost of any company, I honestly don't know how Mozilla is running out of money... But let's assume the Google deal disappears and Mozilla need to get money from somewhere else. Could it live off its userbase?

I think they very well could. Even if we assume a $1 net donation to Mozilla per user per month, we would only need around 9 million donators to cover the personnel costs, or ~5% of the userbase. It's a general rule of thumb of donations that you can expect 5% of your followers to be willing to donate, so I don't think this is far fetched.

I *am* worrying about that apparent ~400M that Mozilla is spending ... somewhere that is not on their own people. But yeah, if they wanted to, Mozilla could be carried by their userbase and, more importantly, be inclined to what their users are telling them.

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/careers/working-on-distributed-teams/
[2] https://tinygrab.com/how-many-people-use-firefox/
[3] https://www.techspot.com/news/101083-mozilla-raked-almost-600-million-2022-thanks-google.html

Working on distributed teams – Life@Mozilla

We have over 1,000 people who work at Mozilla. But, β€œat” Mozilla means a lot of things, as we have ten offices spanning seven countries and six time zones. And, ...

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@collectifission @jeffmcneill @alberto the problem is that #Mozilla failed to use their past "#UncoditionalIncome" or rather absurdly good #Google deal in any meaningful and sustainable way.

Which is why I want @Mozilla / @mozilla_support to hand over #Firefox to @torproject and make #TorBrowser it's #upstream.

  • Obviously the best option would be for #Mozilla to become like a #nonprofit (#eV) or #cooperative (#eG) where they have to actually #audit their finances (in the case of cooperatives, by an accredited external auditor) to enshure they ain't wasting huge amounts of money.

  • Cuz even if everyone there makes $200k a year (obviously they don't) that's still $300M that had to go somewhere.

And even if we assume they blow another $100M on equipment, hosting, sponsorships and other expenses that's still $200M unaccounted for.

  • I'd be willing to pay for a good browser, I really would, but that also entails said #funding to go somewhere useful as per the interest of those funding.

Anything else is a #donation.