Anders StenbergSpeedrunning the "I should try Rust again" to "maybe I should try Zig instead" pipeline. Maybe I'm back to C++ in record time this cycle.
The Seven Voyages Of Steve@SonnyBonds Rust just makes me tired. If I was starting from scratch I’d probably be using Zig
Per Larsson@sinbad @SonnyBonds I love zig. When using it it's clear that it's not finished yet, but it's still the most fun language I know of.
@finalman @sinbad For some reason whenever I've tried to do something with it I've just not managed to make myself continue. With Rust I've been incredibly frustrated but still pushed on.
I'm probably going to give Zig a go again though. Found some vector graphics lib and it's got SDL so I should be good to go.
Martin Kift@SonnyBonds @sinbad I am not a fan of c++, however outside of personal projects my barriers to new languages is quite high unfortunately, at least for gamedev. So it’s eco system has to have full IDE support and not just VSCode, has to have decent debugger, profiler, analysers available, and must be supported on all platforms I might ever want to ship on which includes consoles. Does any language other than c/c++ offers that currently?
@MouseByTheSea @sinbad Yeah I'm a bit the same. Although I don't really mind just VS Code or similar. I think few other languages have bespoke IDEs? C#, Java and maybe Python I guess.
Sidetrack but speaking of C#, aren't there ways of compiling that to native nowadays? Maybe that's limited.
@SonnyBonds @MouseByTheSea For C/C++ JetBrains is my preference these days despite 20 years of VS. But I really enjoyed my time with Go and the VS Code tooling for that was excellent. Newer languages tend to think about more general tooling up front
@sinbad @MouseByTheSea I haven't really given CLion a chance yet but I think it's still pretty much CMake only, right? Makes it a no go for me, unfortunately.
I think VS Code is a great text editor and with clangd it works really well for C++. Hard to get the full coherent workflow for everything regarding projects, configurations etc though since it's just loosely coupled plugins with config files. Debugger is decent but I still miss VS debugging from time to time.
Simon Carter@SonnyBonds @sinbad @MouseByTheSea I think you can point CLion at most build systems these days. I’m using it to build Godot, which is SCons-based, for example.