John T2d ago

I'm describing the current state of LLMs for a talk I'm giving soon.

Am I wrong?

Show threadJohn T2d ago
Oh, also:
Show threadJohn T2d ago
This was also fun (it's the same CEO).
Show threadAlex with the Temper1d ago

@grajohnt People doubt me, and sometimes even get upset, when I refer to executives as 'infants'.

They think it requires skill.

Show threadJohn T
@holsta one of the things I *might* say in this presentation is that if you believe that humans can be replaced by AI because of superior decision making, the most cost-effective place to start with that is the CEO.
May 23 at 2:36pmWeb
Show threadAlex with the Temper1d ago

@grajohnt We've had expert / decision support systems for so long, and they didn't destroy the planet we are living on.

What was wrong with them?

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Show threadJohn T2d ago
This was also fun (it's the same CEO).
Show threadfromjason.xyz ❤️ 💻2d ago
@grajohnt
Show threadAsta [AMP]2d ago
@fromjason @grajohnt "tons of Klarna users" wait, you mean the people in debt to you? oh man
Show threadfromjason.xyz ❤️ 💻2d ago

Holy shit I hadn't even thought about that

@aud @grajohnt

Show threadIrenes (many)2d ago
@fromjason @aud @grajohnt yeah, great catch, we totally missed that
Show threadMaggie Maybe1d ago
@fromjason @aud @grajohnt Company Towns making a comeback. So much winning 🤮
Show threadAsta [AMP]1d ago
@maggiejk @fromjason @grajohnt do you think they'll bother with scrip, or will they just give you a floating, variable discount on monthly payment?
Show threadmike8051d ago

@aud @fromjason @grajohnt Yes, Klarna could make them work off their debts. In a couple years you can go back to the mall and buy another pair of jeans!

By the way, Klarna charges very high fees to merchants, so anything you can buy with Klarna is probably overpriced. If you want to be nice to a local merchant, pay cash. Otherwise use a rewards card and get the majority of the merchant fee back. There is no good use case for this thing.

Show threadEaton1d ago
@aud @fromjason @grajohnt “if you can’t pay for your meal, you do the dishes” as a talent pipeline, the bold reimagining of business we’ve been waiting for
Show threadtraining_solo1d ago
@fromjason @grajohnt I was actually hoping that Klarna would stick with the AI bullshit until they fall off a cliff, because fuck Klarna, they're a slice of the worst SV fratboy posturing airlifted into Sweden
Show threadSecret 3rd South African1d ago
@fromjason @grajohnt People are just pulling metrics out of their ass these days.
Show threadGhostOnTheHalfShell1d ago

@fromjason @grajohnt

I want to live in a timeline, but nobody wants to work for these kinds of companies ever because they tried AI.

Corporations breed billionaires. Their stock ownership is used as collateral for debt that is used to buy up and cannibalize the rest of the economy.

Ultimately though a stock valuation depends somewhere on sales then for gross stocks on the fantasy of future returns.

Imagine a world where the public boycott large companies and M&A.

Show threaddisorderlyf2d ago
@grajohnt Cool, so what we all need to do every time this happens is tell them to pay us more or get fucked. Otherwise, the second they think they can automate away your labour, they will.
Show threaddisorderlyf2d ago
@grajohnt Shit, I think I ate the onion. Sorry.
Show threadsu_liam1d ago
@disorderlyf @grajohnt 30% raise and an additional two weeks of paid leave or fuck all the way off. 40% and four weeks if you need to think about it.
Show threadRusty Ring2d ago

@grajohnt

This business (pun intended) of promoting psychopaths to Lord of the Universe is something we functional humans really ought to review. Like, forty years ago.

Show threaddpflug1d ago
@RustyRing
More like 40 centuries. Have you seen history?
@grajohnt
Show threadRusty Ring1d ago

@dpflug @grajohnt

Yeah, but you have to start somewhere. I think that's the fundamental problem: we look at the mountain we're facing, and are scared to start digging.

Show threadsu_liam1d ago
@RustyRing @grajohnt I feel like if we really want a Star Trek utopian future, widespread recognition of sociopaths and awareness of the reasons why they should never be in a position of power over other people(and reliable application of that knowledge) is the biggest step forward. Most, if not all, “human nature” explanations of why we can’t have good things, and should never try, actually come down to the nature of sociopaths.
Show threadRusty Ring1d ago

@su_liam @grajohnt

Exactly. We allow our leaders – intellectual as well as political – to define "human nature". And naturally, they insist God made us assholes, because they are and they reign over the rest of us. So you not only can't do anything about people with materialistic learning disabilities, they're a Godly thing and only an evil person would want to.

But actually, powerful people, the fact is most of us aren't psychopaths. Just you. So, like, prepare to be unhappy.

Show threadSteve Lhomme2d ago
@grajohnt did the CEO lose the job?
Show threadJohn T1d ago
@robux4 no, of course not.
Show threadHanneke1d ago
@grajohnt @robux4 you would have thought he would have replaced himself with ai as well, since ai can do everything humans can, weird
Show threadEnrico23h ago

@h5e @grajohnt @robux4 https://www.theverge.com/news/673194/tech-ceos-zoom-klarna-replace-earnings

Obviously doesn’t mean they stop getting paid, that’s just for the peasants…

Tech CEOs are using AI to replace themselves

CEOs from Klarna and Zoom had AI avatars deliver part of their earnings reports this week.

The Verge
Show threadfLaMEd2d ago
@grajohnt i mean, it was worth a shot. someone had to try it out and report back...
Show threadJackPearse1d ago
@grajohnt Told you so! ;-)
Show threadMelroy van den Berg1d ago
@grajohnt also avoid working for this company now. You now know their true intent and lack of respect towards their workers.
Show threadAlex with the Temper1d ago

@grajohnt People doubt me, and sometimes even get upset, when I refer to executives as 'infants'.

They think it requires skill.

Show threadJohn T1d ago
@holsta one of the things I *might* say in this presentation is that if you believe that humans can be replaced by AI because of superior decision making, the most cost-effective place to start with that is the CEO.
Show threadAlex with the Temper1d ago

@grajohnt We've had expert / decision support systems for so long, and they didn't destroy the planet we are living on.

What was wrong with them?

Show threadMaggie Maybe1d ago

@grajohnt every time I have to chat with Customer service through an app and I get a survey afterwards I take the time to give the actual human being 10 stars but I always write something in the text box asking me what could have been better.

I like to talk about how their chat bot is so awful that it has never been able to help me, that I always have to be transferred to a human, and that the bot is so annoying that I’m usually pissed off by the time I get the human. And that’s not fair to the human. And even though I’m frustrated when I get the human they are always helpful and patient and kind and they always save the sale. I tell them that if I couldn’t chat with a human when I needed to I would stop using their business, I tell them that they will never be able to replace the humans with bots because their bots are not good.

It probably doesn’t help, they probably don’t care, but I want them to have the feedback anyway.

Show threadMachine Lord Zero1d ago
@grajohnt "We saved money by replacing our CEO with bedShit.exe"
Show threadCiclop1d ago
@grajohnt Where is the sauce?
Show threadJohn T1d ago

@Ciclop
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/this-ceo-is-replacing-his-workers-with-ai-and-bragging-about-it/

https://futurism.com/klarna-openai-humans-ai-back

Show threadMaciek (Maci Dub, Seraflow)1d ago
@grajohnt Starting to suspect more and more will go from their personal computer/device to their personal AI.. i'm ok offloading workload that's menial, but thinking for myself is where i draw the line.
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Show threadAethelstan1d ago
@grajohnt ceo fired? Please?
Show thread🇨🇦🇩🇪🇨🇳张殿李🇨🇳🇩🇪🇨🇦1d ago

@Aethelstan @grajohnt Of course not!

The entirety of the corporate world is built on "successes are mine, failures are ours".

Show thread🇨🇦🇩🇪🇨🇳张殿李🇨🇳🇩🇪🇨🇦1d ago
@grajohnt Dig a bit deeper. He doesn't want "his" humans back. He wants gig workers in their stead, so he doesn't have to treat them as humans.
Show threadjobs1d ago

@grajohnt How come that "regret" doesn't turn into firing the CEO.

I'm sure they'll find welcoming support among their fellow former employees... .... ..........

narrator: they did not