Dreadnought HolidayMay 22

Great day for fans of stuck boats, as a Cypriot cargo ship has parked itself in somebody's garden in Norway - AND THERE'S LIVE FOOTAGE!

It's actually really relaxing to watch unless, presumably, you're one of the crew...

Edit: boo! They've turned the camera off now it's dark and the page is down. I'll see if there's a YouTube version tomorrow or something.

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 22

I don't know about you, but I'd find opening my curtains in the morning to be confronted with this quite alarming...

I'd certainly be viewing the contents of my coffee with suspicion.

IanMay 22
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But soft! What light through yonder window breaks?
May 22 at 1:24pmWeb
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 22

Ok, so there's footage available, and although we don't generally laugh at foreign languages here let me tell you the containerskipet comes i full fart all right.

Doesn't let up on the fart right up until it follows through, in fact...

https://tv.vg.no/nyheter/her-krasjer-containerskipet?id=332906

Fanget dramtikken på video: Her krasjer containerskipet - VGTV

Containerskipet NCL Salten gikk på grunn nær huset til Johan Helberg ved Trondheimsfjorden torsdag morgen.

VGTV
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

The livestream is back up!

https://play.adressa.no/video/3018234/direkte-containserskip-pa-grunn-utenfor-byneset

The latest dit is that NCL Salten is PROPERLY aground from bow to arse. The coastguard vessel KV Njord can be seen in the background, making sure it doesn't try anything funny.

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

Bit of a question about how aground it actually is...

Long story short, the arse is fine, the nose is in a flowerbed. About half of it is in less than 2m of water at the lowest tides.

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 27
Via a judicious application of various Newtons, NCL Salten was today hoicked back out of its garden refuge...
Show threadBashStKidMay 27
@DreadShips “Give me a lever long enough, and I shall move the world”
Show threadSheddiMay 27
@DreadShips that's disappointing, it made a lovely summerhouse.
Show threadBob HannentMay 27
@DreadShips
I saw on Sal's video that they've had quite a few incidents with that ship.
Show threadAvonLovesBlakeMay 23

@DreadShips

Is there a danger that it will tip/tilt over and squash/flatten the house?

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@Lilysea nah, next to nil I'd have thought - it's most likely sat in its own little muddy groove the exact shape of its own hull
Show threadDansk404May 23
@DreadShips Less work to turn it into a lakeside property with ample storage and deceptively spacious living quarters than get it back into the water and return to being a boat?
Show threadPalmAndNeedleMay 23
@crispyfloyd @DreadShips very much the latter.
Show threadAxel RiemannMay 23
@DreadShips Did anybody check on the little excavator that could from Suez, yet? Maybe she’s up for a new challenge… 🤪
Show threadKuba =)KMay 23

@DreadShips I believe they are now really really really worried about that quick clay https://fribygda.no/@aagot/114551279322586716

Across the fjord they had an accident (there is a document on Youtube "The Quick Clay Landslide at Rissa - 1978 (English commentary)")

:thisisfine: (@aagot@fribygda.no)

@DreadShips@mastodon.me.uk it is even worse. This is a quick clay area highly prone to huge land slides, and the boat has triggered a land slide partially under water, and the house is now evacuated until geologists are able to determine if the ground is stable. Removing the ship could make it a lot worse

Fribygda - anarkistisk bygd ute på allheimen!
Show threadToxy 🔬🇪🇺🇸🇪🇬🇧🇺🇦May 23
@DreadShips Fantastic. More slow-tv to replace the Swedish moose migration.
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23

@DreadShips EDIT: I incorrectly thought I spotted an absence of both anchors […]. That invalidates my suggestion that attempts were made to stop.

Ignore the below speculation:
[…]
(or stay anchored? Dutch NOS mentions that it got adrift, but they’re insufficiently clear on whether that’s “from anchored” or NUC), and further speculation then leads me to “but the engine(s) were and kept running”, without control.

If so, maybe beaching was a last-ditch attempt at stopping.

[…]

Show threadargonautMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips coming out between those two islands in the background, the NCL Salten was still traveling at 16 kn (you can see that in Vesselfinder.com's AIS capture) so they were not anchored. And tiven the few nautical miles in between, they were hardly able to stop using the engine when they discovered that doing the intended turn didn't work. What last-minute stopping maneuvers were tried we'll read in the official inverstigation report in a few months.
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@argonaut @happydisciple I've been told by people reading the local press that the OOW has admitted falling asleep. I'm not 100% sure of the truth of it, and wouldn't necessarily trust newspaper scuttlebutt, but it fits the known facts. The pattern of port visits in the run up absolutely screams fatigue as a potential contributory factor.
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23

@argonaut @DreadShips Single watch keeper, overworked and underslept, falling asleep during their watch? That never happens!

(I’m a faithful reader of pretty much all MAIB investigations. Started as a “let’s raise my marine hazard awareness” when I became a tall ships/sail training volunteer, and now I continue for the gripping reads and the wider relevance in risks and systems and safety barriers and whatnot.

MAIB & RAIB reports are much better than NL’s OVV’s.)

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@happydisciple @argonaut yeah, I recommend them to anybody who either has some sort of safety critical role or even manages teams. There's a lot to learn just from the way bridge teams manage situations.
Show threadAlan BellinghamMay 23
@happydisciple @argonaut @DreadShips It was threading its way through the fjords round the corner from Trondheim, and it looks like it just completely failed to make a right turn to head to Orkanger. I'm going for total rudder failure at this point
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23
@argonaut @DreadShips @bellinghman Never attribute to mechanical failure what can easily be explained by human stupidity…
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23
@argonaut @DreadShips @bellinghman (16 kts, windy route, OOW not observing patterns-of-rest, lone watchkeeping? Hold my beer…)
Show threadAlan BellinghamMay 23
@happydisciple @argonaut @DreadShips I was assuming there wouldn't be a single person that close to their destination, only what, 20 minutes from starting their docking manoeuvres? But yeah, human stupidity can be unbounded
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

@bellinghman @happydisciple @argonaut ok, but consider time is money, and you can either unlash the containers yourself whilst on the move, or pay somebody else to do it later... I think I'm right in saying some crews get a bonus for doing it themselves.

Not saying that's what happened, but it's certainly plausible a single OOW was on the bridge for that reason amongst many

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

@bellinghman @happydisciple @argonaut it didn't slow at all though, so you're either looking at a cascading set of problems all at once, or the usual problem of somebody literally or metaphorically asleep at the wheel.

And I'm pretty sure they'd be screaming about the former by now if it exculpated them.

The question as to why nobody reacted is a more interesting one though, and more might emerge. Somebody crashed into Lands End via a trouser malfunction once!

Show threadrdmMay 24

@DreadShips @bellinghman @happydisciple @argonaut

Trouser malfunction? Do you have a link for that one?

Show threadargonautMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips I started to read BSU reports then added selected and maib and mcib reports a couple of years ago (and one greek, dutch and NTSB one each), mostly about recreational vessel accidents.
Other's experience is much cheaper than your own!
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23

@argonaut @DreadShips I read the $Bigboat stuff for tall ships (big, complicated, machinery, enclosed spaces, heights) & systems/general safety/hazards/BRM/CRM, $yachts for my own sailing on yachts and keelboats, $fishing for systems/general safety/hazards.

Yes, I’d much rather use others’ experience than my own.

Show threadargonautMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips ah yes, fishers. Maib is not happy with them... Before reading a couple of reports I thought they'd operate more professionally than small yachties, but of course they need to go to sea for their living, while for us it's only vacation.
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@argonaut @happydisciple even there though, there's definitely a low-key trend that shows them becoming more professional - quite often they're well drilled and consequently do a decent job of dealing with the aftermath. And to further defend them, there's inevitably going to be a bias towards reporting on fishermen who were casual to the point of needing an accident investigation afterwards. The very professional ones don't appear.
Show threadhallvorsMay 23
@happydisciple Interesting, where are MAIB reports? Is there a website similar to avherald.com for ships?
@argonaut @DreadShips
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

@hallvors @happydisciple @argonaut knock yourself out -

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/marine-accident-investigation-branch

Individual and VERY thorough reports on their investigations - almost always very serious marine incidents. Also publish twice-annual digests that contain key lessons in a more accessible style - the latter are possibly more useful for casual boaters.

Marine Accident Investigation Branch

The MAIB investigates marine accidents involving UK vessels worldwide and all vessels in UK territorial waters. MAIB works with the Department for Transport .

GOV.UK
Show threadargonautMay 23

@hallvors @happydisciple @DreadShips

a few are

https://bsu-bund.de. Germany
https://www.bsu-bund.de/EN/
https://maib.gov.uk. UK
https://mcib.ie. Ireland
https://nsia.no/marine. Norway

Bundesstelle für Seeunfalluntersuchung - Startseite

Homepage des deutschsprachigen Auftritts

Show threadAlan BellinghamMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips IIRC it was still doing the better part of 16kts, which would seem to rule out any form of drifting
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@happydisciple the anchors are just really inconspicuous - here it is in Hamburg
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23
@DreadShips Hmm, reeeally inconspicuous anchors indeed. It looks like the flukes actually slot home inside the hull!
Show threadjackMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips I still don't understand where the anchors are / where they attach in either photo!
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23
@jackeric @DreadShips In my interpretation, here.
Show threadjackMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips oh, right, that _is_ the anchor? I thought it was some kind of bushing for the anchor chain!
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23

@jackeric @DreadShips Ditto, hence my speculating.

A cruciform hawsepipe would be odd, I suppose. But who knows (I for sure don’t)?
#¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@happydisciple @jackeric pretty sure that's the anchor - I can't see any other options, and there's no real explanation for anything else that feature could be. Also the rust!
Show threadAlan BellinghamMay 23
@DreadShips @happydisciple @jackeric Looking at the other pictures on MarineTraffic, yeah, I think that's the anchor itself, undeployed
Show threadSheddiMay 23
@DreadShips
"Try anything funny"? There are sunken Phoenician galleys that are better placed to pull off surprise manoeuvres than that ship is.
Show threadGraydonMay 23

@DreadShips Has anyone said anything about the state of the bulbous bow?

Some of the side views make me think it might be vertically displaced relative to its intended position with respect to the rest of the hull.

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@graydon there's no sign of metal creasing though. They quite often bend upwards - in fact this is literally the first image I found when searching for an example
Show threadGraydonMay 23

@DreadShips Thank you!

It seems astonishing there's that much flat shallowish water right by the edge of a fjord like that, but I suppose erosion happens in Norway.

Show threadKoboldMay 22
@DreadShips Considering this being a large ship, that's one awesome stopping distance.
Show threadStevanMay 22
@DreadShips There's only one explanation: That must be the dinghy coming ashore. The ship it belongs to must be a monster.
Show threadSheddiMay 22
@DreadShips
Is the bulbous bow meant to be quite so ... erect?
Show threadPeter JanesMay 22
@DreadShips I don't speak Norwegian, but I think I get the gist of "Absurd situasjon" (the caption).
Show threadCecilia | MeraOrdMay 22
@DreadShips Doesn't let up on the fart...? Speed, rather? 😁 😁
Show threadHugo MillsMay 22
@DreadShips It's only broken because you drove a ship into it!
Show threadxvrMay 22
@DreadShips
Alt Text 🫠👏
Show threadStevanMay 22
@DreadShips "We're going to need a bigger Capulet"
Show threadAxomammaMay 22

@DreadShips “Helberg only discovered the unexpected visitor when a panicked neighbour who had rung his doorbell repeatedly to no avail gave up and called him on the phone. “The doorbell rang at a time of day when I don’t like to open,” Helberg told television channel TV2."

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3311406/norway-cabin-owner-sleeps-cargo-ship-runs-aground-outside

Norway cabin owner sleeps on as cargo ship runs aground outside

None of the container ship’s 16 crew members were injured in the incident, the cause of which is being investigated by Norwegian police.

South China Morning Post
Show threadCattivo Strega ✅bonafide🇨🇦May 23

@Axomamma @DreadShips

““The doorbell rang at a time of day when I don’t like to open,”

Now there’s a statement that should be accompanied by,
“I wasn’t expecting visitors this year.”

I really love Norway.

Show threadIrregular Amorphous SolidMay 22
@DreadShips ground it there permanently and it'd be a decent starter folly