Dreadnought HolidayMay 22

Great day for fans of stuck boats, as a Cypriot cargo ship has parked itself in somebody's garden in Norway - AND THERE'S LIVE FOOTAGE!

It's actually really relaxing to watch unless, presumably, you're one of the crew...

Edit: boo! They've turned the camera off now it's dark and the page is down. I'll see if there's a YouTube version tomorrow or something.

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 22

I don't know about you, but I'd find opening my curtains in the morning to be confronted with this quite alarming...

I'd certainly be viewing the contents of my coffee with suspicion.

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 22
But soft! What light through yonder window breaks?
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 22

Ok, so there's footage available, and although we don't generally laugh at foreign languages here let me tell you the containerskipet comes i full fart all right.

Doesn't let up on the fart right up until it follows through, in fact...

https://tv.vg.no/nyheter/her-krasjer-containerskipet?id=332906

Fanget dramtikken på video: Her krasjer containerskipet - VGTV

Containerskipet NCL Salten gikk på grunn nær huset til Johan Helberg ved Trondheimsfjorden torsdag morgen.

VGTV
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

The livestream is back up!

https://play.adressa.no/video/3018234/direkte-containserskip-pa-grunn-utenfor-byneset

The latest dit is that NCL Salten is PROPERLY aground from bow to arse. The coastguard vessel KV Njord can be seen in the background, making sure it doesn't try anything funny.

Show threadJos DingjanMay 23

@DreadShips EDIT: I incorrectly thought I spotted an absence of both anchors […]. That invalidates my suggestion that attempts were made to stop.

Ignore the below speculation:
[…]
(or stay anchored? Dutch NOS mentions that it got adrift, but they’re insufficiently clear on whether that’s “from anchored” or NUC), and further speculation then leads me to “but the engine(s) were and kept running”, without control.

If so, maybe beaching was a last-ditch attempt at stopping.

[…]

Show threadargonaut
@happydisciple @DreadShips coming out between those two islands in the background, the NCL Salten was still traveling at 16 kn (you can see that in Vesselfinder.com's AIS capture) so they were not anchored. And tiven the few nautical miles in between, they were hardly able to stop using the engine when they discovered that doing the intended turn didn't work. What last-minute stopping maneuvers were tried we'll read in the official inverstigation report in a few months.
May 23 at 9:03amWeb
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@argonaut @happydisciple I've been told by people reading the local press that the OOW has admitted falling asleep. I'm not 100% sure of the truth of it, and wouldn't necessarily trust newspaper scuttlebutt, but it fits the known facts. The pattern of port visits in the run up absolutely screams fatigue as a potential contributory factor.
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23

@argonaut @DreadShips Single watch keeper, overworked and underslept, falling asleep during their watch? That never happens!

(I’m a faithful reader of pretty much all MAIB investigations. Started as a “let’s raise my marine hazard awareness” when I became a tall ships/sail training volunteer, and now I continue for the gripping reads and the wider relevance in risks and systems and safety barriers and whatnot.

MAIB & RAIB reports are much better than NL’s OVV’s.)

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@happydisciple @argonaut yeah, I recommend them to anybody who either has some sort of safety critical role or even manages teams. There's a lot to learn just from the way bridge teams manage situations.
Show threadAlan BellinghamMay 23
@happydisciple @argonaut @DreadShips It was threading its way through the fjords round the corner from Trondheim, and it looks like it just completely failed to make a right turn to head to Orkanger. I'm going for total rudder failure at this point
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23
@argonaut @DreadShips @bellinghman Never attribute to mechanical failure what can easily be explained by human stupidity…
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23
@argonaut @DreadShips @bellinghman (16 kts, windy route, OOW not observing patterns-of-rest, lone watchkeeping? Hold my beer…)
Show threadAlan BellinghamMay 23
@happydisciple @argonaut @DreadShips I was assuming there wouldn't be a single person that close to their destination, only what, 20 minutes from starting their docking manoeuvres? But yeah, human stupidity can be unbounded
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

@bellinghman @happydisciple @argonaut ok, but consider time is money, and you can either unlash the containers yourself whilst on the move, or pay somebody else to do it later... I think I'm right in saying some crews get a bonus for doing it themselves.

Not saying that's what happened, but it's certainly plausible a single OOW was on the bridge for that reason amongst many

Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

@bellinghman @happydisciple @argonaut it didn't slow at all though, so you're either looking at a cascading set of problems all at once, or the usual problem of somebody literally or metaphorically asleep at the wheel.

And I'm pretty sure they'd be screaming about the former by now if it exculpated them.

The question as to why nobody reacted is a more interesting one though, and more might emerge. Somebody crashed into Lands End via a trouser malfunction once!

Show threadrdmMay 24

@DreadShips @bellinghman @happydisciple @argonaut

Trouser malfunction? Do you have a link for that one?

Show threadargonautMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips I started to read BSU reports then added selected and maib and mcib reports a couple of years ago (and one greek, dutch and NTSB one each), mostly about recreational vessel accidents.
Other's experience is much cheaper than your own!
Show threadJos DingjanMay 23

@argonaut @DreadShips I read the $Bigboat stuff for tall ships (big, complicated, machinery, enclosed spaces, heights) & systems/general safety/hazards/BRM/CRM, $yachts for my own sailing on yachts and keelboats, $fishing for systems/general safety/hazards.

Yes, I’d much rather use others’ experience than my own.

Show threadargonautMay 23
@happydisciple @DreadShips ah yes, fishers. Maib is not happy with them... Before reading a couple of reports I thought they'd operate more professionally than small yachties, but of course they need to go to sea for their living, while for us it's only vacation.
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23
@argonaut @happydisciple even there though, there's definitely a low-key trend that shows them becoming more professional - quite often they're well drilled and consequently do a decent job of dealing with the aftermath. And to further defend them, there's inevitably going to be a bias towards reporting on fishermen who were casual to the point of needing an accident investigation afterwards. The very professional ones don't appear.
Show threadhallvorsMay 23
@happydisciple Interesting, where are MAIB reports? Is there a website similar to avherald.com for ships?
@argonaut @DreadShips
Show threadDreadnought HolidayMay 23

@hallvors @happydisciple @argonaut knock yourself out -

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/marine-accident-investigation-branch

Individual and VERY thorough reports on their investigations - almost always very serious marine incidents. Also publish twice-annual digests that contain key lessons in a more accessible style - the latter are possibly more useful for casual boaters.

Marine Accident Investigation Branch

The MAIB investigates marine accidents involving UK vessels worldwide and all vessels in UK territorial waters. MAIB works with the Department for Transport .

GOV.UK
Show threadargonautMay 23

@hallvors @happydisciple @DreadShips

a few are

https://bsu-bund.de. Germany
https://www.bsu-bund.de/EN/
https://maib.gov.uk. UK
https://mcib.ie. Ireland
https://nsia.no/marine. Norway

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