The Picard ManeuverEverything wants me to pay rent
MrJameGumbI don’t see how that’s a “boomer” complaint lol I’m a millennial and don’t know anyone that’s excited to pay monthly fees for something they already bought
edricYeah. The subscription model really only took off during GenZ.
The real reason is because companies found a money scheme that is long term. subscription services are based around the fact that you will need this software possibly for a while and they take advantage of continuous long term use to get you to pay more in the long term. its a for profit company and this is beneficial to that ideology. In reality they’re exploiting you knowing full well you will pay because they don’t have much competition and you need it long term.
not only that, but people usually use boomer, in the context, to say that the complaint is stupid, or selfish, or something
the gradual loss of ownership is a real fucking issue
In the future, you’ll own nothing and like it!
Wait, you guys own something?
“Boomer” has lost all meaning. It has just become an empty counter for when you disagree with someone but you lack the emotional intelligence to have an actual discussion about something other the superficial.
There was a joke about “rethinking the Microsoft model” in a 2005 episode of The Office. The move to subscription based software has been in the works for 25 years or more.
This has been the goal of Microsoft for 20 years. Bill Gates stated it. We’re just now to the point of ubiquitous internet connectivity, and cultural conditioning to accept this model.
Windows itself is eventually going to be a subscription service, with all your data saved on Microsoft’s servers. Microsoft announced at the end of last year a dumb Office terminal that does just this, to test the waters.
dohpaz42I’ve always blamed Adobe for the subscription mess, and that started in the early 00’s.
My vintage copy of Adobe CS6 needs one surgery at this point.
And no gen-Z is happy about this model or pushing its use. It’s mostly being pushed by Gen-X and Boomer executives as a further mode of profit extraction in our rentier economic system.
Sure, we'll just wait for the gen-Z executives to roll it al back then right? It'll never happen, this is a money thing, not a generation thing.
that’s the point I was trying to make
Because that’s when the infrastructure started getting developed to support that model
Most boomers don’t even use any paid software aside from Windows and an antivirus they got tricked into buying
It’s because a lot of boomers own their homes and the concept of rent is foreign to them.
The thing is, you never really “own” your home. Don’t pay your property taxes, and see what happens. You just pay less when the mortgage loan is paid off.
I really don’t understand why people call themselves homeowners when they are paying off a 30 year mortgage.
Feels like rent with extra steps.
I mean it depends on whether they actually pay it off. Many boomers were able to leverage the explosion in housing prices into paying off their cheap mortgages ahead of time. The boomer success metric is actually based on this principle. Buy a $150k house in 1998. Sell it in 2018 for $450k. The mortgage is irrelevant.
The obvious problem with this is that it completely fucks over the next generation.
I blame iPhone and Android apps that required developers to keep paying a $100 minimum yearly fee to keep an app in the App Store.
There were tons $1-$5 apps in the early days of the stores, but 3-4 years in they switched to either freemium subscriptions or adware (or ad ransom models).
Because software needs to be maintained. Well at least most software that has a subscription model is maintained and gets regular updates. People don’t work for free, you have to pay them
That’s the result of a fucked business model. Many software devs came and went prior to the subscription model. Technofeudalism is not wanted by anyone but the software publishers.
I don’t think you can compare software from 20 years ago to software today.
Things got way more complicated and applications require a lot more work
To them, it’s the perfect business model. Keep you customers in perpetual debt, and dependent.
Boomer complaint? Why can’t I smoke an after dinner cigarette at the restaurant in peace without people whining at me to get up and go outside? And what is it with all this “rap music” on the radio? I’ll rather take Chet Baker any day of the week.
GladaedSomebody understood the assignment!
That being said smokers while you are still eating are pretty tough on some people.
Lem JukesDuh, just sit in the non smoking section and you’ll be fine.
Non smoking section?
Oh you sweet summer child.
I meant to imply it not existing in some locations.
Oh I thought you were young enough not to have been alive when they were still prevalent. Which is honestly not a really high bar anymore.
[deleted] in lemmyWhy don’t kids just walk into the store, shake hands with a manager, and get a job immediately?
And why can’t I just grab the secretary’s ass and get a date, without her getting all mouthy?
/s, obviously.
DominusOfMegadeusIt’s like you don’t get the idea at all!
jabathekekShit, they got me!
Pikathey just need to outlaw subscription based services on services that don’t need it.
And no continuous support is not a valid subscription reason, if you want to charge support separate that’s fair to do but this pay 60$ a year “because it’s a continuous development” needs to go away.
Same with the “pay a rent for a building”, it’s just money drain. Being a landlord should not be allowed to be for profit, and should be heavily regulated. If you wanna rent? Sure, but at max it should be equivalent to costs the building has, and restricted to only apartment complexes. So annoying that you can’t find property anymore to actually /own/ because a handful of rental companies can just write a blank check and buy it all.
if you want to charge support separate that’s fair to do but this pay 60$ a year “because it’s a continuous development” needs to go away
Can i pay extra to not have continuous updates that often breaks shit?
Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiUse and support open source where ever possible
Actually supporting open source looks a lot like a subscription service. I donate monthly to a handful of projects that I use regularly.
Finding economic rents is the core of capitalism. It’s so iconic even Adam Smith railed against it
MarteIf that’s a boomer complaint then hell yes I’m a fucking boomer! Fuck your subscription!
It is definitely not a boomer complaint, man’s not paying like 2 bills a month for 10 different subscriptions for the newest shit hollywood productions only for the one tv show I want to be unavailable across all of them smh 🤦♂️
How is that a boomer complaint? It’s basic. Microsoft Word should be buy once for 3 computers, as it always was until subs took over.
We can’t even read the news anymore without a sub.
I like the use of the word rent for this.
The News is something you should have to pay a subscription for.
Gatekeeping the news? No ty.
It’s not gatekeeping. You are paying for a service so that it can continue to persist.
SaltSongDo you think the news just appears on webpages for us to consume?
Particularly in the case of investigative journalism, there is a skill involved in writing the stories, and it consumes the time and effort of many people.
Charging money for your work is not “gatekeeping.” It’s how you keep eating.
Nah, absolutely not. Putting a profit incentive on the news is how we end up with how the news currently is - reaction-bait with the sole purpose of driving engagement and views to generate ad revenue, instead of actual, unbiased, honest journalism.
Not paying for the news is quite literally how we have found ourselves in this situation. When more were paying for the news they were less dependent on ad dollars and more on subscribers. The shift towards free news with the popularization of the web is what created our problem.
I wouldn’t say it was just that. News also got worse on e.g. government supported TV channels in countries that have them. Part of the problem is the regurgitation of social media on the news and also news organizations being afraid of social media backlash. Another part is politicians not giving interviews to organizations that ask them hard questions, that one was probably better in the past because there were more limited numbers of news sources.
If you want narrow readership. Or a society that bases its current events knowledge almost strictly on headlines instead of article content.
People can’t afford groceries. Rent. There is a profound increase in garbage both along highways and in rural locations because it’s the first utility to be sacrificed in the name of survival.
Paying $x per month to dig deeper in on a headline, while the above is happening, isn’t going to occur on any grand scale.
It costs money to provide people with the news. If we dont pay subscriptions then advertisers have greater seay leading to the lower quality news we have now.
I agree. But you can’t squeeze blood from a rock.
I think it depends on the type of software. Subscriptions do make sense for software that requires regular updates, e.g. something tax related, where you need it updated with the latest regulations every year. Basically for anything that won’t be useful a year from the purchase date without feature updates.
That’s fair, what’s not fair is Word and other such basics engaging this model.
The same people complaining about software subscriptions also complained that shrink wrapped software was too expensive and didn’t get free updates for life.
orcaSeeing a subscription actually makes my decision easy. I see it and immediately know to avoid.