I mean, it's a bit different to have a parade for winning WW2, and quite different to celebrate the crimes against humanity that were Vietnam and Iraq.
(And dodging drafts seems like something any sane and moral person does when you're not fighting defensively, or at least allies with similar ethics.)
@BrianJopek I'm someone who grew up in Iraq up until 2003, and witnessed multiple American invasions and I have this to say:
You are part of the problem. All of you helped American imperialism. You might feel these so-called "veterans" are being treated unfairly, but your victims have it much much worse.
The least you can do is try to dismantle imperialism from the inside. But you're not doing that, are you?
What the fuck kind of shit is that to say to a gold star father? He's not advocating for war. He's not advocating for anything. He's only stating the fact that trunp and his pos administration celebrating trump is sickening and unacceptable.
Maybe pick your post to pull that.
Attacking someone who is not glorifying anything just for the fuck of it is pretty sick.
@DoNotPunchDown No, I disagree that what I said was "sick" or "saying shit". I admit I was being annoying by replying to someone I don't know, but that's it.
My point is that using someone's status as an ex-soldier in an imperial war (or "veteran") does not give them authority to speak on a particular subject. In fact it undermines their point.
Imagine if someone said "I'm a proud Russian veteran who fought in Crimea and I think Putin is evil". My response would be the same.
Show me "proud."
Your response was uncalled for to say the least.
I despise war and know it is only for profit. Profit of those who are all really filthy rich. But you don't know the circumstances in which they all enlisted or what they did while there.
Additionally, that particular post was about not celebrating an evil fucker and using the military as an excuse. Of course those in the military have a right to address that.
I'm not going to excuse what you said and I'm done
@DoNotPunchDown You show me "attack".
He doesn't have to say the word "proud". It's implied by bringing it up in the first place. I think ex-soldiers should be ashamed of being one unless they're showing remorse.
And you look for excuses in their "circumstances" and yet you won't extend the same courtesy to me, who spent countless nights sheltering while sounds of literal bombs falling on the city around me.
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