There are #Framework13 models now with #AMD CPUs! This is getting interesting for many reasons! 👀

1. The AMD Ryzen AI CPUs come with a #NPU based on #XDNA from the #Xilinx acquisition. In practice #AMDXDNA only made it into Linux 6.14 (e.g. in the very recent Fedora 42) and there is no end user support as of today making the NPU dead hardware as of today and probably most of 2025.

2. The AMD Ryzen CPUs come with AVX512 and that's working end to end unlike whatever the f #Intel is doing there.

What it means: If you plan on getting a #Framework machine there's currently no point in going for the AMD Ryzen AI CPU options. Unless you want to bet on AMD doing a 180° and suddenly understanding software.

The AMD CPUs are still pretty solid and a good choice, unbelievable that you can get your hands on AVX512 this way — but def. not for the NPU on Linux.

@djh ordered one with AMD, but I have zero NPU use-cases.
I just wanted something AMD-based ☺️

@eliasp Curious why you went with the AMD Ryzen AI option then?

Simply because it's newer? The NPU will be pretty much dead weight then if you're on Linux. There's an option for the AMD Ryzen 7040 series and it's even cheaper and still quite nice e.g. also comes with AVX512.

Even for the LLM use cases what I find online is the NPU not being that mind blowing anyways.

AMD is such a weird company sometimes.

@djh @eliasp IIRC the newer chips are slightly more performant and energy efficient, the latter being the main reason why people like the AMD models.
@crepererum @djh @eliasp from what I’ve read, the really energy-efficient one seems to be the new Intel Core Ultra platform. Though I don’t know how well that’s supported under Linux yet. There also doesn’t seem to be a repairable notebook option...
@cheezychippy @djh @eliasp somewhat related: phoronix published new AMD vs Intel performance numbers (without energy efficiency tests though):
https://www.phoronix.com/review/lunarlake-windows11-ubuntu2504
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