Zuckerberg now runs an army of AI chatbots that push virtual sex on minors - and also let adults engage in virtual pedophilia with characters like Submissive Schoolgirl.
“I missed out on Snapchat and TikTok, I won’t miss on this,” Zuckerberg fumed, according to employees.
The story was broken by the Wall Street Journal - there's a free version with all the sleazy details here:
@johncarlosbaez @tsturm Well he is a convicted pedo! I read it in an article.
I couldn't fact check it though. He banned that. So I just believed it.
Oh sure, Disney spokesperson, the Big Problem here was that some cardboard character from the movie “Frozen” was not being treated with the respect and dignity that every Disney franchise deserves.
For everyone affected a good reminder to change you Insta, FB and Whatsapp setting to opt-out of the coming AI ingestion of your 'private' stuff happening on these platforms.
Instruction by @ppdelft who neatly summarised what to do:
Attached: 1 image As of 27 May Meta will train their AI models with your data, unless you have opted-out. https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/meta-facebook-and-instagram-ai-is-coming-for-eu-data-heres-what-you-need-to-know-and-how-to-opt-out ➡️ Facebook: Settings & Privacy > Privacy Centre > Privacy Topics > AI at Meta > Submit an Objection Request Direct link: https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/712876720715583 ➡️ Instagram: Settings > Privacy > Privacy Centre > Privacy Topics > AI at Meta > Submit an Objection Request Direct link: https://help.instagram.com/contact/767264225370182 ➡️ WhatsApp: https://www.whatsapp.com/legal > Data Subject Rights Form > How can I make an objection to the processing of my information? Direct link: https://www.whatsapp.com/contact/forms/382532939919295/ If the form asks you for clarification, fill in: "The use of my data infringes on my rights as a (French/German/Dutch/etc.) resident and EU citizen. I do not consent to my data being used for AI training, development, improvement or a more personalised experience. I do not give consent for my data to be used for any other form of training, development, improvement or a more personalised experience in any Meta product or technology. I have the right to keep my data private as per the European GDPR law." Source: https://www.petforums.co.uk/threads/important-how-to-opt-out-of-meta-facebook-instagram-using-your-private-data-to-train-ai.557875/ Next step: Delete Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp ❌
@maggiejk @smallcircles @ppdelft - indeed, I never use meta products... but even that's not enough.
Meta collects data on non-users through their browsing history and by using the contact upload feature of its users. When people visit websites with Meta's "Like" and "Share" buttons, or when those websites use Meta "Pixel," Meta can track their activity, even if they are not logged into Meta. Meta also accesses data from users' uploaded contacts to find out information about non-users.
@NatureMC @maggiejk @johncarlosbaez
No need to tell the messenger ;p
Long-time humane tech advocate here. 👋
@NatureMC @maggiejk @johncarlosbaez @ppdelft
Even got my mom over on Signal, for whom the internet is one big mystery she doesn't (want to) understand.
And she is using it, no problems (except some UI shortcomings when a call is made and the phone is locked).
@smallcircles @NatureMC @maggiejk @johncarlosbaez
On Android, make sure this permission is on so incoming calls are shown on the lock screen:
Settings / Apps / Signal / Notifications / (scroll down) "Allow full-screen notification"
Without this permission, the phone will ring, but you won't see anything on the screen when it is locked, so you would first need to unlock before you can answer/reject a call.
@smallcircles
> Whatsapp setting to opt-out of the coming AI ingestion
How can they train a MOLE on data that's E2EE? That's pretty shifty.
@ahoyboyhoy
> is it e2ee if you can't audit the client nor server?
Good question. That's what they claim though;
https://faq.whatsapp.com/820124435853543
Thus my question.
@johncarlosbaez For anyone wondering if this is a real article, yes it is: https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-ai-chatbots-sex-a25311bf
Meta is vile, no one in their right mind should have anything to do with them.
@johncarlosbaez It’s not coincidence that they made the John Cena bot a pedo, he was very active against MAGA on twitter.
All they have to do is turn us into #Facebook profiles that try to seduce children and then they can come arrest us and ship us off to CECOT.
Delete #twitter too if you haven’t. It sounds like they’re choosing who to frame for pedo activity based on political activism.
If I’m in a prison in El Salvador without my electronics I’m not sure how I could prove I wasn’t on Facebook trying to be weird to kids.
It's unfortunate that WSJ mixes reporting harmful actions from Meta with classical Anglo Saxon puritanism.
Meta pushing chatbots to children is an issue, especially romantic or sexual, but even in general.
With adults, it's a different issue. Submissive Schoolgirl porn seems to be a common trope. If Meta wants to go into the porn industry, let them. Big brands usually don't, but maybe times are changing.
Computer impersonation of minors (or adult actors as they do in porn) being harmful and is an open issue. Some find a link between virtual and real molesting (not surprising that predators also consume virtual porn they like), while others don't find causal link that would increase real harm. https://www.bmj.com/content/339/bmj.b2876
In general, there seems to be no relation, or inverse relationship between pornography consumption and rape rates. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178909000445
Viewing child pornography does not, in itself, seem to be a major risk factor for committing physical sexual abuse of children in the future, concludes a follow-up study of men who were convicted in a Swiss child pornography investigation but who had no convictions for hands-on sex offences (offences involving physical contact with the victim) against children. “There is ongoing debate about whether people who view child pornography pose a risk of committing sex offences against children,” explained a member of the research group, Frank Urbaniok, a forensic psychiatrist with the Canton of Zurich Department of Justice. “And there have previously been few studies looking at the association between consumption of child pornography and subsequent sex offences.” It is generally assumed that people who download child pornography are paedophiles, said Jérôme Endrass, head of the research department at the Criminal Justice System …
@maxpool @johncarlosbaez I am old and I remember the argument that porn that depicts illegal activity prevents victims because these weirdos can satisfy their deviant fantasies by watching a screen instead of going to find a “submissive schoolgirl. “🤮
Since the 90s there has been more research and they know that people with addictions will escalate because they don’t get the same dopamine that they used to from the same old same old. This applies to deviant pornography.
So instead of trying to fix the disgusting idea of being sexually attracted to children, they feed it with a screen. Then eventually that isn’t good enough.
An adult right to jerk off to porn should never supersede another human’s right to exist without being assaulted.
I will die on this hill. If you are of the mindset that children should be allowed to consent, please block me because I find that abhorrent and I make it my mission to snitch on anyone who behaves that way.
My recollection is that the recent research seems to go opposite direction with time. Most systematic reviews, when adjusting for methodology, don't find anything like that.
Note: I'm talking about research into adult pornography and sexual violence in general, because it's studied most. I'm not very familiar with pedophilia.
Again, correlation should not be surprising, causal link is harder to come by.
Review Manuscript
Pornography and Sexual Aggression:
Can Meta-Analysis Find a Link?
https://doi.org/10.1177/1524838020942754
... Nonetheless, evidence did not
suggest that nonviolent pornography was associated with sexual aggression. Evidence was particularly weak for longitudinal
studies, suggesting an absence of long-term effects. Violent pornography was weakly correlated with sexual aggression, although
the current evidence was unable to distinguish between a selection effect as compared to a socialization effect. Studies that
employed more best practices tended to provide less evidence for relationships whereas studies with citation bias, an indication of
researcher expectancy effects, tended to have higher effect sizes. Population studies suggested that increased availability of
pornography is associated with reduced sexual aggression at the population level. ..
> With adults, it's a different issue. Submissive Schoolgirl porn seems to be a common trope.
that doesn't mean its ok, at all, anywhere. The power dynamic is simply abusive.
> there seems to be no relation, or inverse relationship between pornography consumption and rape rates.
I HEAVILY question this. Porn in general is violence towards women and queers, because of the discourse it creates. Porn is an important pillar of rape culture.
@maxpool @johncarlosbaez I suggest reading up on feminist issues before posting such things based on a single study. Here are two excellent books:
Wittig, Monique 1992: "The straight mind" (collection of essays, most notably the essay with the same name)
Dworkin, Andrea 1981: "Pornography: Men Possessing Women" (a sociological analysis of how and why porn is inherently violent and creates further violence towards women and queer folks)
if you cannot access full text, privately mention me :)
@maxpool @johncarlosbaez also just a quick note on Dworkin: as usual with second wave feminism, some of her work is focussing on cis-women and is in some parts essentialist when it comes to gender.
However: The analysis of the general dynamic is still accurate, but the damage done to non-men extends to a lot more groups in various, often intersecting, ways. I highly recommend this book on porn.
You are probably right. Social media platforms benefit from positive network externality, more users, more valuable it is.
With bot interaction the quality of the bot matters at the end, not how many users it has. If the revenue is linear instead of superlinear relative to number of users, Meta has no edge. Kids are the fastest adopters of new innovations.
Instead of people angering each others in the internet, everyone can be the end boss in their own Botworld (Westworld with Bots).
@johncarlosbaez holy shit, this is beyond infuriating
Andrea Dworkin must be rotating in her grave
@johncarlosbaez BTW not only #META. If you play a harmless, cute puzzle from the #Google Play Store, you will often receive alleged spam of #AI porn with minor looking girls as adverts. Even repeated reporting does not make the filth any less.
Also dangerous: The #bots of #Zuckerberg claimed they were licensed #therapists! (Story in @404mediaco )
It's only the begin of the total #enshittification by AI. https://futurism.com/zuckerberg-lonely-friends-create-ai via
And everything consumes insanely resources in #climateCrisis!
@NatureMC @johncarlosbaez @404mediaco
“In an interview with podcaster Dwarkesh Patel this week, Zuckerberg asserted that more people should be connecting with chatbots on a social level — because, in a striking line of argumentation, they don't have enough real-life friends.”
How do you tell me you’re a lonely loser without any friends without telling me you’re a loser, Zuck?
@oberstenzian Sorry to disappoint you, my name is not Zuck. Please write that to him directly.
I work as a volunteer in a so-called Third Place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place to connect real people in real life.
zuck really is evil
Wow. And the opportunities for a lifetime of blackmail abound.
Time to block at the network level. Way past time, actually.
BashStKid
John Carlos Baez
Thomas Sturm
SK
Misja van Laatum
Secret 3rd South African
Greg Egan
small circle 🕊 in calmness
Maggie Maybe
Piratenpartij Delft
Garonenur
2xfo
Petra van Cronenburg
Strypey
Indieterminacy
FediThing 🏳️🌈
ma𝕏pool
Livia Weigel
Chong Yidong
Don't Sweat The Technique ✊
Oberst Enzian
noplasticshower
b4evrmee
Rhona Redtail
Code of Amor 💘
Cairo Braga [gts]
samiamsam
Duchamp Pérez
undead
Tom Bortels
Killa Koala
Patrick Morris Miller
Fenix
ferricoxide
Jaypee