Graham Sutherland / Polynomialpaywalled standards need to fuck off straight into the sea. truly one of the worst types of rent-seeking.
Gary Parker 
@gsuberland it’s not a standard if you have to pay to see it 🤷♂️
datenwolf@WiteWulf @gsuberland ISO would like to have a word.
*sigh*
doboprobodyne@datenwolf @WiteWulf @gsuberland
Obviously I'd never advocate anything naughty on social media, but is there a sci-hub homologue for standards?
blinken@gsuberland @doboprobodyne @datenwolf @WiteWulf I assume because a) they tag the PDF with your company name and I guess you could remove it but it's like 200 pages and b) if you're working for a client, they're paying the bill anyway and c) your professional indemnity insurance certainly isn't going to cover you if your Blockchain powered AI solar inverter explodes and you used a pirated standard, so there's not much demand I guess
@blinken @doboprobodyne @datenwolf @WiteWulf removing the tags is pretty easy, but yeah, I think a lot of it is just lack of motivation to upload them from the types of people who have access to them.
@blinken @doboprobodyne @datenwolf @WiteWulf there is demand though, especially for standards involved in public infrastructure.
@gsuberland @blinken @datenwolf @WiteWulf
Interesting! Very good points. Yes, as a lay-person, I tentatively held the view that after the Grenfell Tower fire, there might be some sort of interest in open standards. 🤷 I realise though that lay-people usually don't have a good grip on complex systems failures.
groff@doboprobodyne @gsuberland @blinken @datenwolf @WiteWulf
Not relevant for BSI, and not free, but Latvia has (had?) some of the lowest costs for EN, ISO, IEC standards.
https://www.lvs.lv/en/products/index
@geoffl @gsuberland @blinken @datenwolf @WiteWulf
Bloody good Intel, much obliged!
#openStandards #standards #teamwork #leadership #systems #safety
@blinken @gsuberland @datenwolf @WiteWulf
That's a very good point. Any entity that indemnifies the standard authority (and that might the standard authority itself, forking out money for lawyers) might need paying. If I lived in a country where I trusted the House of Lords to work constructively to design a civic and legislative framework to support standards setting authorities who published open standards, I might have hope
Klastrowy Bebok@datenwolf @WiteWulf @gsuberland ISO standards are awful, if i've been author of some ISO standard, I'd say it costs $100500 so no one will ever read it