David Ho

They could just kick him out. 🤷🏻‍♂️

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e13fc48e-0fe8-4152-be78-3e0348adf3ff?shareToken=edf6ab74b3fc80be6c2fa41774e91f54

Musk should consider resigning from UK Royal Society, new president says

Musk’s attacks on publicly funded scientific research make his position as a member difficult, says Sir Paul Nurse

The Times
Apr 28 at 8:14amWeb
Show threadLouisApr 28
@davidho yep, that would be a logical and fair decision.
Show threadGeert AartsApr 28
@davidho Or even better, getting rid of the elite FRS status altogether and becoming an open membership organisation. The real problem is that they praise people based on acchievements in the past, which is no guarantee for life-time achievements or behaviour in the future. Not to mention the bias and non-objectivety in the award decision-making process.
Show threadMerry ChristmasApr 28

@davidho

I wish they would.

Show threadTC Won't Give In To LiesApr 28

@davidho

You misspelt "should"

Show threadBashStKidApr 28
@davidho We could do, and should do, but the Council doesn’t want to. Nurse won’t take over as president until December.
Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)Apr 28

@davidho I don't understand how the Royal Society doesn't realise how much damage it did to their reputation to admit him in the first place.

Even before all of the fascist stuff, he was not a scientist, not a researcher. His contributions to science and engineering were that he was a rich person who funded some work.

Making him a FRS made it very clear that it's not an institution for scientists, it's an institution for plutocrats.

It used to be that being a FRS was something to aspire to an a scientific career. Now it's an easy decline if offered, because who would want to be associated with an institution like that?

Show threadKarl Heinz HäsliprinzApr 28
@david_chisnall @davidho Wondering how many other open eugenicists are or have been distinguished members of Royal Society though.
Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)Apr 28

@KarlHeinzHasliP @davidho

Like every other old British institution, its history is entwined with Empire. I don't judge it based on what it did a hundred years go, I judge it based on what it learned from the mistakes it made back then and how it's acting now. And, right now, it's not looking good.

Show threadKarl Heinz HäsliprinzApr 28
@david_chisnall @davidho I however do judge it on what it did since inception and it seems to be a smoldering pile of shit.
Show threadyuhasz01Apr 28

@david_chisnall @davidho

(UK) Royal Society are collaborators with Fascists like Musk for political gain....

Show threadKid ManiaApr 28
@david_chisnall @davidho
**"I don't understand how the Royal Society doesn't realise how much damage it did to their reputation to admit him in the first place."**
Show threadGraeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Apr 28
@davidho They should indeed just kick him out. He should not have been there in the first place, he's just a numpty with a lot of other peoples money
Show threadSteven HeywoodApr 28

@davidho
I'm frankly baffled by what position is being taken here by Nurse. The idea that this row is about whether you would want to have dinner with Musk is a crock of bullshit, the notion that Musk's wholesale attack on science complicates matters rather than simplifies them enormously is perverse, the layperson might think undermining science and science research on ideological grounds more heinous than having a row about paying a subscription, and the idea of being not timid is to perhaps ask the person attacking your core purpose if they might want to think about resigning is risible.

The Royal Society has always had an eye on the patronage of the rich and powerful (the clue's in the name) so Musk's election wasn't the surprise it should have been. His retention, and the convolutions involved in defending that, just calls the Society's whole purpose into question.

Show threaddilawarApr 28
@davidho I guess he bought the membership and he is paying his annual 'rent'. He should get one for his horse!
Show threadDomApr 28

@davidho People waiting for sociopaths to "resign" or being "sensible" are delusional.

Musk is expecting people to be too afraid to act against him and he is unfortunately right. People are too afraid to "cause a disturbance"....as if this sociopath has not already.

Show threadEspen 👀 🇧🇻 🇺🇦Apr 28

@davidho

They should of cause get rid of him and his alike. Those being part of Trump's fascist regime will remain toxic forever. 👀

Show threadkim_harding ✅Apr 28
@davidho I think you may have made a typo there, the fifth letter... s not c...
Show threadPhil M0OFXApr 28

@davidho (Edit to reduce misinformation spread)
I'm an idiot and mixed up the Royal Society and the RI, which are not the same (thanks to Tim and Stuart for pointing that out.

Please continue enjoying the Christmas Lectures!

Show threadStuart Apr 28
@philpem Are you thinking of the Royal Institution's Christmas lectures? That's a different organisation to the Royal Society.
Show threadPhil M0OFXApr 29
@slowe ... OH THANK GOD!
Show threadTim SmallApr 28
@philpem @davidho Somewhat confusingly the Christmas Lectures are run by the Royal Institution, which is not the same thing as the Royal Society.
Show threadPhil M0OFXApr 29
@tim DOH. Thanks for pointing that out. Edited.
Show threadLeeApr 28
@davidho Flush the turd, he won't get better with age.
Show threadJohnApr 28

@davidho

Every now and then I consider doing a PhD. Maybe try for a life in academia. Get a professorship, sew some leather patches on a tweed jacket and get all the babes.

Then I think about how a PhD would be a life of hard work and poverty, and I focus on other things. Leave PhD to the pros. The idea of being accepted into the royal society would never occur to me.

But hey, maybe I should have just published "I Hope Artificial Intelligence is Nice to Us" [2014].

Show threadAngela ScholderApr 28
@davidho He should just bekicked out!