@alessandro

thank you for the formatting advice!

as for the tone advice I'm just responding in the tone of who I'm responding to:-)

@WiteWulf @toriver @brucelawson

@toriver

The Court siding with corporate interests doesn't mean this was an accurate interpretation of the law. I'd like to see their rationale.

If the issue is fraudulent streams taking money from the pooled money given to human artists who publish on Spotify, then this same criticism could be leveled at all AI music on Spotify, which means this is all Spotify's fault - but many AI tracks have already hit big numbers on their platform.

@WiteWulf @brucelawson

@WiteWulf

Yeah, same - at worst this seems a violation of Spotify ToS for siccing fake listeners on their servers. Nothing was taken from other artists, and Spotify allowed him to upload the deluge of AI slop tracks in the first place.

@brucelawson

@toriver

I asked you a very simple question, which was to actually support what you're saying with a citation. Because you're clearly not actually reading it. the linked page is a press release from the department of justice, not a court document. No court ruling was made in this case. the defendant pled guilty.

but instead of trying to understand where you are wrong or be less wrong, you're getting angry and blocking someone who is making you feel bad.

@WiteWulf @alessandro @brucelawson

@toriver

okay, I think I understand what you're getting wrong. you aren't American, are you? you are fundamentally misunderstanding some things about our legal system. if you are interested, I will explain to you what you're getting wrong. if not, feel free to continue thinking you are right when you aren't :-)

@WiteWulf @alessandro @brucelawson

@WiteWulf @toriver @alessandro @brucelawson so the people accusing him said it was fraud

and your response to that is "case closed, it's fraud."

I hope you are never accused of a crime.

@brucelawson it's more than a little bit Devil's Advocate, but I'm struggling to see how this is fraud other than that it cost Spotify $8m

The money certainly didn't get diverted away from other more deserving artists. (*edit* apparently it does, as Spotify no longer pays artists per stream, but as a percentage of overall streams). It's only Spotify that's out of pocket because someone gamed their broken business model.

Fuck 'em 😒

(But of course we all know who the US courts will side with)