Chop

Remember late 3.0 & 21-22 when fans shit on peaks in improv?

“That ::insert jam/band:: is too peaky he said as he listened to a 25-min Ruby Waves without a single memorable section.”

Can we all now agree Phish is best when peaking balls while Trey tears the ass out of his guitar?

Apr 23, 2025 at 12:56pmWeb
Show threadEvdudeApr 23, 2025
@chopaganda AGREE?! In this economy?!
Show threadElwoodApr 23, 2025
@chopaganda yes
Show threadJDGApr 23, 2025
The Goose complain was never even really “too many peaks,” it was “not enough things that *aren’t* peaks.” And it was an obvious observation and fair criticism. Which you see by all the Goose fans who rejected it at the time, then adopted it retroactively to talk about the past after Cotter joined.
Show threadChopApr 23, 2025
@cottonmather.bsky.social I didn’t even know who Goose was when this started in late 3.0.
Show threadJDGApr 23, 2025
Also with Phish, it was totally a thing that for a while in late 3.0 they were kinda going to Insta Peaks when jams started meandering. So I’m not sure who you’re out for here— n00bs or JadedVets of Phish or Goose. But Ph & G have gotten flak for formulaic streaks, and sound best when not doing that
Show threadChopApr 23, 2025

@cottonmather.bsky.social In late 3.0, jams became slower and less focused. We got more long jams but they were far less exciting. I called this Trump-era Phish.

Those with the opposite belief argued Trey stepped back for full band jamming and not everything needs a peak.

Show threadStage Banter GuyApr 23, 2025
People who think Trump-era Phish is really good are idiots and shouldn’t be listened to.
Show threadChopApr 23, 2025
@tweeterreprise.bsky.social Truth
Show threadTHE BandinoApr 24, 2025
I would take the best 2017-2019 jams over the best 4.0 jams any day. 4.0 shows have been more consistent beginning to end but the jams just haven’t been as special IMO, albeit a few exceptions in 2021 maybe.
Show threadChopApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social Bandummy
Show threadTHE BandinoApr 24, 2025
You know I’m right. 2019 MSG Tweezer. MSG 2018. Dicks 2017. Many Baker’s jams. Lots of Fall 2018. All more memorable jams than almost anything from 4.0 with just a few exceptions.
Show threadChopApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social no
Show threadBrad SolariApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social @chopaganda 2018 is ass compared to this year. You couldn’t be more wrong!
Show threadBrad SolariApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social @chopaganda you are borderline mentally dysfunctional Bando. Just STFU.
Show threadTHE BandinoApr 24, 2025
Explain to me why you think I’m wrong. I’m not saying 4.0 hasn’t been really solid at times, but I’m saying that the highs were higher in 2017-2019 (despite the lows) than 2021-2024. And 2022-2023 are not very good years of Phish.
Show threadBrad SolariApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social I complete 💯 disagree. It’s honestly not close. Trey is playing way better and in general tempos are higher than that era. But continue to bang your drum
Ban-tardo.
Show threadTHE BandinoApr 24, 2025
I’m purely talking elite memorable jams. Not how tight the band is or tempos or any of that. I’d rather listen to Baker’s Simple/Chocdust, or MSG 2019 Tweezer or 2018 SanFran Carini, or anything from 12-30-18, or Vegas Golden Age, etc than almost anything 2021-2024
Show threadBrad SolariApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social I’m at the show so I can’t talk about this anymore but there are several incredible jams including last night’s Carini.
Show threadBrad SolariApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social last nights Carini and Chase 2021 blow away the 2018 BGCA Carini. It’s not close.
Show threadTHE BandinoApr 24, 2025
🤣 Yer at the show and arguing with me?? It really must not be very good. Carini last night was mid AF. Same with the Ruby Waves.
Show threadBrad SolariApr 24, 2025
@bandino.bsky.social Fuck off
Show threadfrostellicusApr 23, 2025
There was a point in ruby last night where I was begging them to not just peak the jam but to bring the jam somewhere
Show threadChopApr 23, 2025
@maxellxlii.bsky.social Give me all the peaks and fire!
Show threadWill RubensteinApr 23, 2025
Anyone think that Trey’s long solo tour this Spring has “helped” Phish jams this week? He had to play way more rhythm on Solo Tour, even when he was dueting with Jeff Tanski…
Show threadChopApr 23, 2025
@willrubenstein.bsky.social i’d say maybe, but he and the band have been on an absolute tear since the spring of 2023. It’s nearly impossible to catch a bad run unless you had the Grand Rapids midweek and Billy Strings is in town.
Show threadhurricanezissApr 24, 2025

@chopaganda this will not suffice. We do not care about your ski boots being too tight or what its like to take a dump at Hardees on I-70 at 6:30am after eating a breakfast burrito while listening to Winger.

Rank the 5 shows. For the people.