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@ente More inspiration can be found here: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-leave-google-gmail
dustinbucher@dustinbucher Thanks for the suggestion, will consider it!
Paeiro@dustinbucher @Tutanota @ente personally I would rather choose conversations ( under XMPP procotol, fully opensourse and freel) matrix is related to a fundation in London, outside the EU.
@paeiro
I had never heard of this before but im excited to check it out!
I had never heard of this before but im excited to check it out!
Godz FellaIch möchte euch gern hierauf hinweisen
Desdinova
Mark Reeves@Tutanota I can understand reservations around including Fastmail as an email alternative, but I don't get why you'd exclude Kagi from search options while including Brave and DDG.
Andy@heymarkreeves @Tutanota Fastmails servers are hosted in the US, so I’d defo not count them in anything unfortunately.
@andyn Thank you for explaining what I already acknowledged.
@heymarkreeves No problem!
Tournesol 🌻@heymarkreeves @Tutanota that's so real x)
If you don't care about the terrible Brave, at least add Kagi …
If you don't care about the terrible Brave, at least add Kagi …
@tournesol @heymarkreeves Thanks for your feedback, will take it into account!
Ivar Gierveld 🍋
__Miguel_
@nanianmichaels @Tutanota @tournesol @heymarkreeves thnx. Have been reading up the last couple of minutes.
Okay, but what browser you recommend then?
Okay, but what browser you recommend then?
@IvarGierveld
I've been using @zenbrowser on desktop, Fennec on mobile.
Haven't really looked into replacing Fennec, but it's at least a bit better than Firefox.
I stopped using Chromium-based browsers a while ago, it was one of the first things I did when I started to DeGoogle. Chromium has become a de-facto monopoly with a company whose only goal is to extract information from its users and make money from said information as its only real developer (Google).
It has become much worse than Internet Explorer ever was, and for the sake of even having a chance to keep the Web even remotely private in the future, using anything but Chromium-based is a must, IMO.
@Tutanota @tournesol @heymarkreeves
Mïkê 💚 👑🐉🗡️🏳️⚧️@IvarGierveld Mullvad on desktop, Privacy Browser and Vanadium (Graphene only, sadly) on mobile @nanianmichaels @Tutanota @tournesol @heymarkreeves
Unlogic@IvarGierveld @nanianmichaels @Tutanota @tournesol @heymarkreeves or librewolf on desktop and IronFox on android to add more options :)
Tock@IvarGierveld @Tutanota @tournesol @heymarkreeves Remember that Tuta is from Germany so US political nuance isn't always clear to others.
Don't get me wrong, Brave is ran by jackasses, no argument there.
Morgan ⚧️@IvarGierveld pushing crypto a lot and a lot of homophobia, from what I can remember. There might be more
Jean-Étienne@heymarkreeves @Tutanota what are the reservations around Fastmail? I'm a user and I try to keep up to date, but I am not aware of anything wrong with them?
TwoDpadsDown
Ho'nehe@Tutanota Tuta Drive??? Wie weit ist "in Entwicklung"? Ich bin gerade dabei mich für ein Cloud Storage zu entscheiden.
Hendrik 🎸🤘🎵
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ℍ𝕠𝕨@Tutanota @ente You need to remove Brave... https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/ and as a mail client you could add ProtonMail and posteo.de at least, it's your competitor but you can't ignore them if you want to make a honest chart.
Why I recommend against Brave
If you are keen on personal privacy, you might have come across Brave Browser. Brave is a Chromium-based browser that promises to deliver privacy with built-in ad-blocking and content-blocking protection. It also offers several quality-of-life features and services, like a VPN and Tor access. I mean, it's even listed on
m@thias.hellqui.st :verified-skull: Agreed. I have a hard time taking the list seriously unless all good alternatives are there. In fact, if ProtonMail and Proton Pass would have been included I would have respected the list, and Tuta, a lot more and I would have clocked them as a truly honest company.
As a sidenote I am also missing DeltaChat (especially if we’re aiming to avoid US-based centralised services).
Death by Lambda
Christian Lynbech@mapcar @xdydx @Tutanota @ente But that's not a only thing about Brave, Firefox+uBlock, can do that with less traffic (Brave uses a lot of shaddy traffic if you analize it) and with less RAM. If you really want a Chromium alternative then just use https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
@mikelovesbikes @mapcar @xdydx @Tutanota @ente yes but my mom using ublock + chrome didn't work, I think is something about chrome that doesn't block youtube ads, now she uses firefox + ublock and no more issues! And I'm also using inv.nadeko.net or yewtu.be, and if I want more quality I run them with mpv, leaks my IP but I still skip the bloated frontend hahaha and I can always do `torsocks mpv <url>` to route via tor or use my VPN.
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Vincent@Tutanota It's clear it's your main competitor on your market segment, but I think you should still include ProtonMail as email provider as you did for their other services. 😉
Lenz Grimmer@xdydx @mikelovesbikes @lenzgr
@Tutanota
I know the story, but there is a deeper analysis here : https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
Each one needs to make his own opinion. Here, it just seems not consistent to present some proton services but not their main one.
@Tutanota
I know the story, but there is a deeper analysis here : https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
Each one needs to make his own opinion. Here, it just seems not consistent to present some proton services but not their main one.
@xdydx @mikelovesbikes @lenzgr @Tutanota
For an average user, both are great services. Proton ecosystem has its value, but also its potential drawback if they eventually turn evil. My opinion is that it was more a clumsy communication from Andy Yen than a Trump endorsement. Currently, I personally don't think it's a sufficient reason to completely discard Proton. Disclaimer: I use both services. If I’m proven wrong later, I would immediately cancel my Proton subscription.
For an average user, both are great services. Proton ecosystem has its value, but also its potential drawback if they eventually turn evil. My opinion is that it was more a clumsy communication from Andy Yen than a Trump endorsement. Currently, I personally don't think it's a sufficient reason to completely discard Proton. Disclaimer: I use both services. If I’m proven wrong later, I would immediately cancel my Proton subscription.
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aritrasaha@Tutanota gmail alternative you did not add proton mail where as you add proton drive as gdrive alternative.😁🤣
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