kat donegan 🇵🇸✊uk gardeners: is this spinach? please, help. i don't remember planting any & this has sprung up in my garden. thank you for preventing a potential poisoning. :)
#bloomscrolling #plantID #gardening
#bloomscrolling #plantID #gardening
Coles Street Pothole@kathimmel There's only one way to know for sure! 😈
@ColesStreetPothole cheers for that. :) in the interest of full disclosure (of my complete buffoonery), i did take a tiny taste when i thought it was probably spinach. now just waiting for the dude with the scythe to turn up.
@kathimmel With any luck, the first sign will be hallucinations and a warm sense of happiness and security! 🤣
@ColesStreetPothole that would be cool, even if it sounds more like a fungi experience. :D
@ColesStreetPothole i'd go with fungi experience.
@kathimmel
Duly noted!
Duly noted!
Matthias Rex 🦣@ColesStreetPothole Fungi Experience would be a 2010's post-metal band. Fun Guy Experience might be something that would play on 120 Minutes on MTV in 1992 (towards the end of the broadcast).
@Meowthias
The Fun Guy Experience were an English new wave pop band, active from 1981 to 1983. . . .
The Fun Guy Experience were an English new wave pop band, active from 1981 to 1983. . . .
@ColesStreetPothole That's way better.
@Meowthias
(It's literally ripped from the Wiki for Fun Boy Three 😂 )
(It's literally ripped from the Wiki for Fun Boy Three 😂 )
Vashti@kathimmel not dock at all, look at the arrowhead leaf shape. Might be cuckoo pint/lords and ladies which is poisonous. Definitely not spinach
@kathimmel here's cuckoo pint to compare. Later in the year it will put up an unmistakable stem of red berries in a hood.
@kathimmel To be really clear, this is a poisonous plant that grows wild in the UK and commonly pops up from nowhere in gardens as a weed.
@kathimmel oh, the other thing about cuckoo pint (which might deceive an app or AI, specifically) is that it often but not always has purple spots on the leaves. It frequently does not have them, especially when the plant is young.
@vashti vashti, thank you for your knowledge. i think it /is/ lords & ladies. against my personal code of ethics, i've pulled it up & put it in a box of mulch where i hope it won't propagate. did have a tiny nibble when i thought it might be spinach, so i'm just waiting for death now i guess. :|
Sarah W
robtherunt🌱💚@vashti @kathimmel
Ahem! Polite interjection if I may.
There is no such thing as a weed, merely plants that are considered to be in inconvenient situations. 😬
Lords n Ladies is a great plant for wildlife, though it can get a bit out of hand. It may be poisonous to humans, but other creatures love it. And let’s face it, nature certainly needs a hand right now.
Ok, interjection over. Thank you 😁
@robtherunt @vashti you're right, you're right. that's the way i feel. i just didn't trust myself to remember what it was & also worried that my dog might snuffle it.
i feel shite, now. :( should have left it.
i feel shite, now. :( should have left it.
@kathimmel @vashti
Maybe it’s still salvageable? They grow via runners I think, so could possibly be ok, unless you chopped it up?
We certainly have a policy in our garden of “if it likes it there, it must be ok”. Though I am tested by bindweed and bramble haha!
@robtherunt @vashti i hadn't annihilated it, so have replanted.
yeah, i like that philosophy (even whilst also engaged in personal battles with bramble).
yeah, i like that philosophy (even whilst also engaged in personal battles with bramble).
@robtherunt @vashti well, i'll be...erm...stalking it now, checking for signs of recovery.
BoxOfRain@kathimmel
Does look like spinach to me.
And my phone also reckons so.
@boxofrain @kathimmel phone apps aren't reliable and regularly suggest deadly poisonous plants and fungi are good eating.
@vashti @kathimmel
Of course image matching should always be taken with a pinch of salt.
In this case by “my phone” I was referring to Flora Incognita (developed with support from the Max Planck Institute in Germany) which suggested spinach with 93% certainty.
This is no guarantee of course but it is a fair indication.
Flora Incognita’s good accuracy - particularly in Northern Europe - and use in research is well documented.
@boxofrain @kathimmel To be clear, is it your position that your app is so good people should use it to identify edible plants? Because that goes against all the foraging advice I've ever seen, especially when multiple people are like "that's a poisonous plant or a doppel and not safe to eat".
Jorge Vilar Palop@vashti @boxofrain @kathimmel a friend if mine likes to say that every fungi is edible, at least one time.
@boxofrain i've just read which app you use & it's more trustworthy than any of those i used. i'm just gonna' err on the side of caution & assume it's, as @vashti has suggested, lords & ladies.
@kathimmel @vashti
Wise!
When more developed it becomes rather more obvious.
As I said, online tools should in any case be treated with some cation. And Flora Incognita was developed for research not as a foraging guide.
@boxofrain @vashti wish i'd left it now. feel a bit sad about my hastiness to remove it.
i'm into edimentals, so i should really find a book or app that can help me ID things.
i'm into edimentals, so i should really find a book or app that can help me ID things.
Simone 🤖 & Bruno 🐕@kathimmel Non an UK gardener but it looks like: "Chenopodium bonus-henricus" to me
@simontol thank you, simone. :) that's a very good call, but i don't think the leaves on my plant are as waxy as the chenopodium bonus-henricus. i'll be looking out for it now, though, so that's good to know.
Helene Troedsson@kathimmel I am not in the UK but I think this looks more like some kind of arum than spinach.
@kathimmel Meh. Now the other answers popped up and I see others have come to the same conclusion as well. Sorry for being redundant.
@helenen you're not being redundant, helene - not at all. the heavier the consensus, the better! thank you. :)
Dimplestoday@kathimmel I pointed my "picture this" plant id app at your photo - and it said spinach - but indicated by the white and yellow spots there may be some pest problem disease; cured by washing with soapy water. It looks healthy to eat to me. did you touch it an was there any skin reaction? spinach won't do that, but I understand L&L will.
@dimplestoday ah, that's one of the apps i used, as well...but it doesn't smell or taste like spinach. thanks for help! :)
@kathimmel we have kale and chard and lemon balm and nastutiums self seeding all around our garden raised beds and flats -- one of my kids forages and keeps up an all sorts of plants, so when I doubt my apps, I check with them. best.
@dimplestoday that's excellent to know. hope your resident botanist stays interested. essential knowledge, that!
Nick@Nickiquote that's just ridiculous. humans fucking about now. :D
@kathimmel It’s a load of old bobbins.
@kathimmel
It does look like young spinach, but it could be young cuckoo pint which is definitely not edible 😁
Taste a bit. If in doubt leave it for a week or so, the leaves will round out and it'll be easier to identify.
It does look like young spinach, but it could be young cuckoo pint which is definitely not edible 😁
Taste a bit. If in doubt leave it for a week or so, the leaves will round out and it'll be easier to identify.
@kathimmel
I worked in a veg farm for 10 years, it looks more like spinach than cuckoo pint.
Let us know if you're still alive tomorrow 🙂
I worked in a veg farm for 10 years, it looks more like spinach than cuckoo pint.
Let us know if you're still alive tomorrow 🙂