My stupid android smartphone has developed even more damage recently, so I've decided to once again to search the internet to try and find, if not a _good_ phone, at least a reliable one.

According to the internet, the winner by far is an iphone.
...Er, _no_

Ok, runner up is Samsung. *Looks down at the rubble of my worst phone yet samsung*

Ok, internet is still useless.

@OpenComputeDesign
If only we could use #fairphone here

@s31bz @OpenComputeDesign

what about #furiphone #pinephone or #purism #librem

also wondering if one shouldn't take to the pawnshops with a printout from https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ - at least being able to flash a non-shit (and optionally degoogled) os would be a decent baseline

@light
@admitsWrongIfProven

Devices | LineageOS Wiki

@unspeaker @s31bz @light @admitsWrongIfProven I have a pinephone and a librem 5.

They have a few problems. Mostly battery life, though they're also a bit slow and sometimes rather unstable.

Biggest problem is I do a lot of rough work, and stuff in my pocket doesn't tend to stand up well. The pinephone gives _no_ confidence of durability, and the Librem 5 feels kind of sturdy, but is so expensive and hard to get parts for, I don't even want to _consider_ risking damaging it.

@unspeaker @s31bz @light @admitsWrongIfProven

Plus, the _other_ reason I need an android, because I've been put in charge of hardware that needs proprietary apps that only run on android. So I still couldn't throw my android out like I'd like, I'd only be able to replace my old dumb phone

@OpenComputeDesign @unspeaker @s31bz @light Best screw that hardware to a table or wall somewhere, bam no need to actually take that android with you!
@admitsWrongIfProven @unspeaker @s31bz @light Well, most notably, we have some internet connected security systems, so it would make it rather moot if the android was left with the security system :P