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Rev. caffinepwrd ☕@VeroniqueB99 this one of the things I don't get about our culture, anyone can bump uglies and produce a child. But if you want to adopt, drop trouser and grab your ankles because your life needs to be spotless and you better have 💲💲💲
Agreed... I don't get it either.
I just watched seconds (not more) of a thing where the 'mother' sold her 4yo little girl for $2500 to a guy. She died. Mother in jail confessed. I hate humans.
Neal@caffinepwrd @[email protected] someone who adopted while watching a friend’s marriage implode because he cheated and made twins....yes
kasperdSome of those people are also against contraception and abortion, which makes it hard for them to follow your advice.
That's not a problem with your advice though.
Then 'don't have sex'... 😉
Yeah, it would be great if people with those views refrained from reproducing.
Desert Trail@VeroniqueB99 Yaaaaaaaaaaassssss!!!!!!!!
Tengrain@Tengrain you would.
@VeroniqueB99 Darn right I would!
Richard JohnsonCan bears be trans? Or is that called "were" for them?
Beggar Midas@VeroniqueB99 Well, I do have a *few* non-negotiable clauses in my baby contract. If they go serial killer without damn good cause or they sneak into some girls college house to slash up the the object of his obsession and her three roomates while they slept or some shit like that? I've retained the right to perform a VERY late term abortion out to the 134th trimester.
Poppa don't play no games.
Flaming Cheeto@VeroniqueB99 amen.
My mom wanted a kid who'd be smart, handsome, talented, and humble. She only got three of those things. Still felt a ton of love.
My mom wanted a kid who'd be smart, handsome, talented, and humble. She only got three of those things. Still felt a ton of love.
Greg Stolze@VeroniqueB99 I regret I can only 'like' this once.
@GregStolze 👍 🤣 ikr?! I think these genius coders should invent a 'multiple likes' system ....
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Joe Johnson@VeroniqueB99 Desire for normality isn’t damning, so why try to shame it? Some people want a legacy that Bill and Dan just can’t give them.
obscurestar@JRFromTexas @VeroniqueB99 (EDIT: moved, misattributed)
@obscurestar i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, homie. You might have responded to the wrong post.
@JRFromTexas Yeah. It does seem to have responded to the wrong person. Sorry about that.
EDIT: I see. Went back to the thread and the comment I responded to is no longer there. I bet we found a mastodon bug where if the post is deleted while you're responding to it, it puts the response on the next post in the list since this is at about the same point in the list of comments as the one I was trying to respond to.
@JRFromTexas no, actually it is. You don't have the kids that you 'want'. You have kids that are their own person and you, being the adult, have to accept that, even (in fact especially) if that means grieving the child you thought you had. That's on you. You legacy is YOU, not them. That's no love, that's Build-a-Bear.
Mancur Olson@VeroniqueB99 its one thing to not want your kid to be gay or trans etc. Its another to treat them differently for being who they are. I have a two year old that, for his sake, hope is not gay or trans as they are very difficult paths, one more so than the other. Would I love him any less? absolutely not. My brother is gay and went through a lot of abuse from peers through his formative years, but my parents were by his side always. Did they want that for him? no of course not.
What you're referring to is the 'obligation' to see things differently that the 'ideal' world you have in mind. You want the child to 'fit in'. To 'be like the group... this group not that group.
@VeroniqueB99 forgive me if I'm not understanding, but I'm not talking about my ideal world, I'm talking about the world he will grow up in and hoping he is not faced with anguish for who he is. It sounds like you are talking about your ideal world
@hotsaucespecial (this is a little too long esp for my char limit here) Parents are 'conditioned' by society to get 'this type' of child and problems start when it doesn't happen. That's when you see if they did love that child unconditionally or not. It's not about 'want'. It's about realizing that the 'image' you had in your mind was created and isn't reality. Most people don't deal well with that.
@VeroniqueB99 you're saying people are conditioned by society to expect their children to be a certain way, "normal" if you will. And that when they are not "normal" that most can't handle it and stop acting in the child's best interest. Do you have children? You're talking as if society is a thing you choose to be apart of, when you have to be a part of it, regardless of its merits. As a parent you want what will make your child happiest, and generally being trans or gay will make that harder.
I happen to really disagree with that. Why would being gay/trans make someone less happy?! Have you met the gays?...Or for that matter fit in better in society? I do have children and one thing I can tell you I've NEVER pushed for is for them to 'fit in'. If anything because he never will like it or not. He's not gay/trans but he won't fit. Fit in what btw. The society you mention is already gone. You raise children for the world THEY will live in, not the world you live in
@VeroniqueB99 I'm not trying to be a troll. I'm not telling you to push them to fit in. But am I crazy to think that being born into a body you don't identify with is a serious difficulty? Regardless of 'fitting in'. Are there not challenges to being gay? All I've tried to say is that I can see as a parent, not wanting suffering for your child so in my mind its not a sin to hope they won't have to go through it, as there are many other challenges already ahead.
@hotsaucespecial I know you're not trying to be a troll... You're not crazy, you're just missing the point. Being born as something you're not is not the problem, the problem is society around you that is preventing you from living life the way you want to live it. The problem and challenges are created from the outside in. So their only choice is to either hide or "fit in". You child is not suffering because of who they are. They know who they are. There will be challenges for society also..
Loki Scarlet@VeroniqueB99 Why relegate this advice to the phobes? 99% of humans should be abstaining from reproduction.
Actually, hot take, 100% should be
Actually, hot take, 100% should be
Asbestos@aral
I told my children I love them no matter what. I recently told them I'd probably stop if they became MAGA.
I'm not even sure about that... my son (who has cognitive issues) got swept up in it the 1st time around... I was gobsmacked how this intelligent, sensitive kid all of a sudden was turning far right in front of my very eyes and the more I tried the less I could convince him otherwise... I backed up... maintaining the same line. This was from roughly 17 yo... everyone told me it was because he was 'opposing me' but I knew that wasn't it... not solely.
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Turns out I figured out 10 years later looking back that he NEEDED to feel powerful and nothing was reflecting that image to him. So when this shit started he hopped on that bandwagon because of the promise of it. As he grew up, I never let him forget it. Biden won, he hated it. Then round 2 of MelonFelon and I thought he was A LOT less on said bandwagon...
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I was surprised... now he's DISGUSTED with him and readily admits 'he thought he would do x y and z and he didn't, it was all a hoax' so now he's back to his sweet gentle self and a lot more self assured. He's still 'team Bernie' (his protest was to go drumpf when the Dems ousted Bernie... sigh)...
I loved him unconditionally thoughout but had giant screaming fights about it... 🤣
Love the child, condemn the behavior.
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@aral
I'm sorry to hear that. I can do see how that happens. My kids have some issues and I was a bit concerned about one. I can very much understand the power thing.
Brandon 🇨🇦They want the perfect child, but this isn't Gattaca, and if it was, they would be outraged that children are created in a lab instead of "naturally."
Urzl@VeroniqueB99 Everybody wants to know, is it a boy or a girl and which one are you hoping for?
I told them, I just want a baby that was healthy and otherwise had no opinion on the matter. Besides, the return policy on babies is a pain in the ass.
bananas_pizza@VeroniqueB99 Jesus taught people unconditional love for all the living. So much for the christianity, i guess
don't get me started on religions 🙄
LeonianUniverse@VeroniqueB99 Yes, and this is why I love my dad, he completely respected me when I told him I was bisexual and continued to love me ever sense. I found out that I wasn't actually bisexual in the end, but the fact he was so loving through the time I was discovering myself just shows the awesome person that he is.
inamruzui@VeroniqueB99 there's conditions like don't be a fash but actually correct them before its too late
Tea time.@VeroniqueB99 That's easy to say, when you're not Elon, pumped full of gender-affirming hormones to try to pass as credibly masculine, but stuck with useless sacks full of autistic, transgender-friendly sperm.
Clearly, that's why he opted for artificial insemination with Grimes.
(It had absolutely nothing to do with what the testosterone shots and drugs did to his weewee.)
... JFC.