If you have a Kindle and "bought" ebooks over the years, you have a week to download and back up your files before Amazon blocks you from doing that.

There are scripts (see the thread below) that will bulk-download.

It's a reminder that Amazon is a rapacious monopolist.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366171

Amazon is removing Download & Transfer option - MobileRead Forums

Amazon is removing Download & Transfer option Amazon Kindle

@dangillmor my family has a rule about not buying anything we can't break the drm on. If we really need it and it's locked up too tight, it's piracy or substitution.
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That's a multi page thread, any direct link to the scripts would be appreciated if not after I've read through and found them I'll post in reply here but it'll be Tuesday before I have a chance
@dangillmor some of the Usenet indexers have backup copies of e-books in case you can't get the copy you bought.
Jeff Bezos hack: Amazon boss's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'

Exclusive: investigation suggests Washington Post owner was targeted five months before murder of Jamal Khashoggi

The Guardian

@Npars01 @dangillmor It was about WaPo and Khashoggi.

It was an early indicator of Bezos' pliability when he did nothing after Jamal Khashoggi's horrific assassination. Since then criticism of Saudi Arabia via WaPo has dried up.

@dangillmor

There is another way...

irc://irchighway/ebooks

I can't vet the link because I use an irc app but you get the idea - we buy what we can if they let us, we take what they hide if we can't buy it.

@rouxdoo @dangillmor pirating fiction books drives those authors out of business. Few of them make any real money, and when their books don't sell their publishers drop them.

@rouxdoo @dangillmor The other option, of course, is to buy from almost any other outlet (like Kobo), download the ACSM file, and crack that. It works exactly like cracking Kindle books - you just need an additional plugin for Calibre which imports them.

Or use a library. Or buy the paper book.

But please don't pirate fiction, especially genre fiction. It destroys the books you want to read and the livelihoods of the authors who provide them.

@rouxdoo @dangillmor you can also ofc still copy the kindle book from the kindle device, and then you have the crackable file Amazon didn't want you to have. This works at least up to the Oasis.

@dangillmor

I predicted this outcome when Kindle first debuted. I have never bought an e-book because of it.

@VulcanTourist @dangillmor this is also the reason I've never have signed up or bought any digital music either...

@Vonskinnback @dangillmor

Are you familiar with the Wal-Mart digital media fiasco? This is not at all the first time this has happened. There were precedents, as well as the writing on the wall.

@VulcanTourist @Vonskinnback link re Walmart?

@dangillmor @Vonskinnback

Good ask! It's been ages since I read about - not personally encountered - the incident. Here, found some:

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna22413031

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/wal-mart-closes-movie-download-service-1.654648

That was just one incident, though, because Wal-Mart also backpedaled on an MP3 store and probably other things I don't even remember.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/08/walmart-pulling-the-plug-on-its-mp3-store-but-not-its-drm-servers/

https://musically.com/2011/08/10/wal-mart-shutting-its-music-downloads-store-this-month/

https://phys.org/news/2011-08-walmart-online-music.html

> The company had attempted to kill its DRM servers in 2008β€”leaving its previous customers out in the cold if they were to need re-authorizationβ€”but later decided to leave the DRM servers online after receiving bad customer feedback.

Wal-Mart cancels movie download service

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has closed an online movie download service it launched less than a year ago.

NBC News

@dangillmor **"... you have a week to download and back up your files before Amazon blocks you from doing that."**

Done.
Amazon's ongoing enshittification is very close to the breaking point for me.

@dangillmor I just checked (in Australia) and there is no download link for any ebook I ever purchased. They're all pretty old so maybe they took it away a while ago, not sure.
@alansuspect @dangillmor I’ve never received any advice this was going to happen or has happened. What the hell?
@lizzieclarke @dangillmor nope I didn't receive any notification, this was the first I'd heard
@alansuspect @dangillmor are you using a phone or tablet? The link only appears in desktop mode.
@dangillmor Does that mean you can only read those books on a browser? The book purchases aren’t actually being deleted?
@lizzieclarke @dangillmor It means the easiest way to get a file off the Kindle platform and into something like Calibre which can use a plug in to remove DRM and make them portable back ups is going away. Your books will still be there on Kindle.
@dangillmor Amazon has swallowed up so many great alternative book portals that they really do have much of a monopoly now. Abe Books and The Book Depository have been taken over. A lot of independents listed on Abe Books but now we have to give Bezos even more if we use the portal. It is tragic. Bezos is a very unlikeable person

@dangillmor

You can use Calibre plus a plugin to remove DRM and download ebooks.

https://youtu.be/oxgubolrcPo

And then maybe go and buy a Kobe open source ereader.

fuck amazon

Remove DRM Protection from E-Books in 2024 (6 Easy Steps)

YouTube
@Captain_Jack_Sparrow @dangillmor also, there are plenty of people who run calibre who will happily remove your DRM for you. I've used a couple before I found my own route to fix them.

@xinit @dangillmor

how do they do that? I mean, do they need access to your Calibre account?

Β»Amazon has occasionally removed books from its online store and remotely deleted them from Kindles or edited titles and re-uploaded new copies to its e-readers. In 2009, the company removed copies of George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four and Animal Farm, explaining the books had been mistakenly published.Β«

In case anyone wonders, what local backups might be good for.

https://www.theverge.com/news/612898/amazon-removing-kindle-book-download-transfer-usb

Amazon’s killing a feature that let you download and backup Kindle books

Amazon is removing a Kindle feature that allows purchased books to be downloaded to a computer for backup or transfer via USB.

The Verge
@dangillmor I think a solution at this point is to stop buying from Amazon all together. I've closed my Amazon account and will look for alternatives. No ebooks, no Amazon Prime, nothing.
@dangillmor can't find any option to download bought books, may be it depends by countries?
@dangillmor I found it and I was able to move them to my kobo using calibre!
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I'm glad I never used the amazon Kindle but Tolino. It never was hyped but it works, it's european based, diversified and the books are mine.
@dangillmor Here's a fork for the script that works for Amazon in UK, Germany, Italy, and Canada as well.
https://github.com/bellisk/BulkKindleUSBDownloader?tab=readme-ov-file
GitHub - bellisk/BulkKindleUSBDownloader: Quick script to download all your Kindle ebooks.

Quick script to download all your Kindle ebooks. Contribute to bellisk/BulkKindleUSBDownloader development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
@dangillmor
I've been using amazon as little as is humanly possible for years now, think that decision is looking good now.

@dangillmor Folks looking to move away from Amazon but that still want to use their Kindle should check out Calibre and it's ecosystem. Helps ensure your amazon device doesn't become e-waste.

https://github.com/crocodilestick/Calibre-Web-Automated

GitHub - crocodilestick/Calibre-Web-Automated: Calibre-Web but Automated and with tons of New Features! Fully automate and simplify your eBook set up!

Calibre-Web but Automated and with tons of New Features! Fully automate and simplify your eBook set up! - crocodilestick/Calibre-Web-Automated

GitHub
@FoxxMD @dangillmor Folks looking to move away from Microsoft don't want to go to Microsoft GitHub to see solutions.
@FoxxMD @dangillmor Yesterday we, well Jacqueline did the real work, downloaded all our Kindle books to the netbook, and then converted them all to epub and PDF via EPUBOR. it requires an older Kindle version, but gives the link.
It's a two steps process.

@dangillmor And here is the link to the download page for your kindle purchases...strangely, all of these articles seem to omit this vital piece of information

https://www.amazon.com/hz/mycd/digital-console/contentlist/booksAll/dateDsc

On each book Click on "More Actions" -> Download & transfer via USB

Amazon.com

@dangillmor Worth noting the Python script, bookp.py, might need the WebDriverWait values tweaking to give you time to tackle the captchas that Amazon have thrown up. My approach was to change them to 15 seconds and and use the --showbrowser parameter, so when it stops on a captcha on login I have time to fill it in. Once you manually push it past the login like this, it works. The version that works for me is the one posted by @mschomm - the original not so much.
@greg_harvey @dangillmor @mschomm Thanks for the tip, Greg. Can you clarify, for a fairly basic Python user, how/where to change the WebDriverWait values in the script? I couldn't figure it out. When I ran bookp.py in the command prompt, I got an uncaught N-API callback exception detected. Following cmd recs, I added --force-node-api-uncaught-exceptions-policy=true, which removed the error but didn't seem to produce anything.
@lauhazn @dangillmor @mschomm Hi, sure! I edited lines 90 and 121. I *think* it was line 121 that did the trick in the end, but I was kind of guessing rather than trying to understand the code! πŸ˜‚
@dangillmor For those who want to switch to ePub readers, search on the internet for solutions. Probably #Calibre can do the job. #amazon #KindleSucks #epub
@dangillmor these downloads are tied to a single device so backing them up is of questionable utility. the only reason anyone cares about this is because the drm on them has been broken for a very long time so most people breaking drm were still using it
but as of a few years ago you can also just download books on-device and then import them into calibre over usb, or with a bit more setup download books using the kindle desktop app and import into calibre from there (which also gives you full-resolution images, unlike downloads for e-readers)
@dangillmor the vast majority of ebook drm has always been a token effort to keep publishers happy. honestly i assume this change is just to simplify their infrastructure, if it was actually to strengthen the drm then they would just roll out the stronger drm they've used in india for years worldwide