What does Lemmy think of Daniel Supernault or on mastodon?

https://lemmy.world/post/25636656

What does Lemmy think of Daniel Supernault or on mastodon? - Lemmy.World

So I managed to piss off Daniel Supernault so much that delete my loops account, blocked me on the loop discord, and probably blocked me mastodon because I called him out a lot for making no progress on loops. It’s a long story and I could post it to this group (subreddit?) if you’re interested I can tell the story and get any receipt I still have But im curious what the sentiment is about him.

because I called him out a lot for making no progress on loops

There’s your problem, right there. He doesn’t work for you. He’s made a bunch of stuff, and it’s up to him how fast he wants to make it, full stop. If you “called him out a lot” to the point that he blocked you on multiple platforms, the issue is 100% you, and you need to stop harassing the people who are making good stuff for us.

It’s part of the long story but it started out when Dan promised to release the source “this weekend” 12 days ago with no published source code then it got pettier. If Dan didn’t make any promises I’d would have gotten bored and left. I would not describe my calling out as harassment, but I’d like to hear about the good stuff he did

It’s part of the long story but it started out when Dan promised to

Stop.

He doesn’t work for you.

He can stop working for a year, and not do shit, and that’s fine. Even if he promised you that it would take you to Mars by the weekend. Because it’s his work.

Stop harassing the people that make stuff for you for free. It doesn’t matter if it hasn’t met your service expectations. I don’t give a shit. No one owes you software for free.

Go buy software, if you want, then you can yell at someone in particular if it’s not meeting your expectations. It’s one thing to complain in a forum about some long-needed feature or something, that is more or less fine as you as you’re not overly objectionable or strident about it. Harassing one of the developers personally is fucked.

Edit: I should say, also, that Dan seems from what little I’ve seen of him to be a little more susceptible to this stuff because he genuinely does get upset about stuff sometimes, or over-promise, and has like 5 different projects going on at any given time. People may have a little more legitimate reasons for him, compared to other developers, to write a little essay about how he is “problematic” in some regard. Personally, I don’t give a shit. He is allowed not to be perfect in his social media postings or his commitment to meeting his self-imposed deadlines to give software to people or whatever else. He’s giving you stuff for free. Give him a break. He’s fine. If he’s causing some actual problem, then of course we can talk about it, but if he just has some perfectly ordinary human failing or imperfection, in the course of writing great stuff for you, then allow him to do that without declaring him as an official enemy now because it’s fun. Because he is working for you for free to help build stuff he thinks is important.

Again I never said he worked for me and I clarified I called him out for a promise he made. I’ll made it simple so you what you say reflects some understanding of what I saying. Plus you don’t even know 2% of the story

I clarified I called him out for

Stop.

I pretty much said it already. There’s an edit up there with some additional thoughts. The deadline was self-imposed and you don’t need to call him out for a god damned thing.

Yeah now I have to explain why I called him out to you because you don’t understand that guess you’re trying to convince me on something I did is wrong without context with “don’t need”. I’m willing to tell the story but no one wants to hear it
Because it literally doesn’t matter. As soon as the story starts with “I called him out a lot for making no progress,” the issue is you.
I’ll hear you out can you explain with only the context I’ve given you btw I only told two people the entire story. Why calling him out is the issue. Let’s put you on the spot and watch you crumble

Are you asking me to explain why chasing after someone who’s writing a bunch of software for you for free, because they didn’t meet your expectations, to the point that they block you, is wrong?

Like I say, I honestly think you just need to grow up a certain amount before you interact directly with people who develop fedi software, because you clearly just think this is okay and are genuinely surprised at the unanimous crowd of people telling you that it is not.

Dan, like a lot of people, is a human being. He’s allowed to miss deadlines or make angry posts on social media that he then feels bad about after. You’re not allowed to chase after him and treat him like you’re in some kind of position to be judging how well he’s performing. I have stopped working on projects before, because of people interacting with me in a way that rubbed me the wrong way and I just didn’t feel like subjecting myself to it. Having ingrates like you squalling at the fedi developers about how they need them to start meeting all the deadlines or they’re going to “call them out a lot” is going to drive people away from developing free software. Don’t do that. I keep telling you: I do not care about the further context. You are already wrong, when you are demanding anything at all in the manner that you’ve described.

Nope not at all. Hint read my post