mccFeb 5, 2025

Hello EU people:

There is an EU citizen petition to ban the use of "conversion therapy" on LGBTQ+ folks (i.e., trying to de-LGBTQ usโ€” a process often described as "torture"). If you're interested, you can sign it here:

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/screen/home

Please especially take note if you are a national of Spain, Slovenia, Belgium, or the Netherlands; the petition needs about 5x as many votes as it has now, but also needs to hit a threshold in four additional countries, and those are the four closest.

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@mcc Signed, but for the Netherlands it's a pain in the ass. Like 10 steps, jump to Dutch ID app, need to scan ID with NFC, multiple redirects back to browser.

I wonder if it's easier for other countries?

Admittedly I've got Firefox with NoScript set as my default browser making it even harder.

Feb 5, 2025 at 6:05pmWeb
Show threadRatsnake Games ๐Ÿ”žFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc In Germany, I can either use my ePA (ID card) or just enter my personal details manually, with no authentication.
Show threadPeter VL โ›”Feb 5, 2025
@ratsnakegames @aerique @mcc
Belgium the same, either digital with ITSME or manually: Just needed to fill in my national number and my first and last name.
Show threadJernej SimoncฬŒiฤ ๏ฟฝFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc For Slovenia (with smartcard national id card) it's: select country, check both checkboxes, click the e-id button, select country again, redirected to our si-pass system, where I have the choices of "Id card with smartcard reader" and "Id card with mobile app", clicking the first I get the browser's select certificate dialog box (assuming my id card is inserted in the reader already), then I need to enter my PIN and it's done (not too different from using any national service that needs e-id sign in).
Show threadGil PedersenFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc Itโ€™s easier here in Denmark, and we already use the system on a more or less daily basis (though the initial setup can be a pain).
Show threadphilippFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc Firefox on Android with German eID and the AusweisApp (actually FOSS) was surprisingly easy to use here. It also does the redirects but they all worked, even jumping in and out of the app.
Show threadSandor SzรผcsFeb 5, 2025
@philipp @aerique @mcc yo, "Neuland" is reality :D
Show threadUnaFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc In Croatia i just had to write my personal identification number (OIB in croatian) and type my full name.
Show threadBart SchullerFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc It's a lot less hassle if you've signed an EU petition before. Signed!
Show threadFranchescaFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc I tried with my Dutch DigiD but it seems to expect me to have registered a Dutch ID (I think?) and I donโ€™t have one as Iโ€™m not a Dutch citizen ๐Ÿ˜” is there something Iโ€™m missing?
Show threadmccFeb 5, 2025
@Frantasaur @aerique I assume it wants you to vote with whatever country you are a citizen/national of. Incidentally, Ireland is also on the "votes unusually helpful" list.
Show threadFranchescaFeb 5, 2025
@mcc @aerique I need to give an address of residence for that, but Iโ€™m from NI so have never been a resident ๐Ÿ˜”
Show threadFranchescaFeb 5, 2025
@mcc @aerique wait, I was able to put my Dutch address when registering as an Irish citizen! Signed!!!
Show threadmccFeb 5, 2025
@Frantasaur @aerique Alright. Great. I was just writing out a long thing explaining how to use the site's contact page lol
Show threadmccFeb 5, 2025
@Frantasaur @aerique It seems like the operators of this site would want to include NI folks but also seems plausible the site might have been coded before brexit made things complicated
Show threadFranchescaFeb 5, 2025
@mcc @aerique thanks for the push, I was almost giving up there.
Show threadColin WatsonFeb 7, 2025
@Frantasaur @mcc @aerique Yeah, I was able to give my UK address as an Irish citizen. (I don't know whether they'd succeed at contacting me since the form asks for country of residence, offers EU countries or "Other...", and then never actually provides a way to specify exactly which one ...)
Show threadAlexFeb 5, 2025
@aerique @mcc Germany just asks for full name and home address, that's literally it. For once our bad digitalization had a benefit
Show threadDima Pasechnik ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑFeb 6, 2025
@aerique @mcc Een Nederlander hier. Firefox + DigID app worked just fine for me, same as usual. No NFC was needed.
Show threadKrijn Soeteman ๐ŸŽ™ ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆFeb 6, 2025
@aerique @mcc I used Firefox on my phone, pretty easy. It opened the DigiD app, signed in, back to Firefox, signed.
Show threadRutger HarderFeb 6, 2025
@aerique @mcc Netherlands here, worked fine through DigID for me, no NFC stuff required (using Firefox with javascript enabled)
Show threadJos noemt het gewoon melkFeb 6, 2025
@aerique @mcc I had the same (also NL, FireFox and noscript ๐ŸคŸ ), but even after enabling scripts I had to repeat the process a couple of times before it finally worked, as if some remnant from a previous time were causing conflicts.
Show threadaeriqueFeb 6, 2025
@goleztrol @mcc ๐ŸคŸ
Show threadVincent ๐ŸŒป๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ en ๐ŸŒนโ˜˜๏ธFeb 14, 2025
@aerique @mcc I (Dutch) could choose for the manual form, no ID