evacideEverything about this story is terrifying, but the cherry on this shit sundae is that they are pushing changes directly to prod.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/musk-cronies-dive-into-treasury-dept-payments-code-base
Matt Blaze@evacide That stands out as Extremely Not At All Good, even among all the other not at all good things going on.
@mattblaze The people who think they are good at everything because they are good at coding are also bad at coding.
Kiloku - Secretário do Caos@evacide @mattblaze I've never seen it put so succinctly. Perfect.
@evacide "Full faith and credit of the United States" ain't what it was.
RRB@mattblaze @evacide "Move fast and break things"?
Esther Payne 
Berkubernetus@evacide @mattblaze Evergreen post
madopal@evacide @mattblaze You can see how rudimentary his code is. He finally added shell scripts to do linting.
emenel
PeaceNick🇨🇦@emenel @madopal @evacide @mattblaze
Lordy lordy, this cannot be real. Please tell me this isn't real.
It's the Seek in DeepSeek which seems like it could be somewhat problematic.
Something needs to be commited.
max22-@maxime_andre @evacide @mattblaze He *WAS*
https://bsky.app/profile/klong.bsky.social/post/3lhjx7usgvc26
https://bsky.app/profile/klong.bsky.social/post/3lhjx7usgvc26
Katherine Long (@klong.bsky.social)
I linked DOGE staffer Marko Elez to a deleted X account that advocated repealing the Civil Rights Act, backed a “eugenic immigration policy,” and wrote, “You could not pay me to marry outside of my ethnicity." He just resigned. https://www.wsj.com/tech/doge-staffer-resigns-over-racist-posts-d9f11a93 https://www.wsj.com/tech/doge-staffer-resigns-over-racist-posts-d9f11a93?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1
Gary McGraw@evacide @mattblaze oh so true
Joe Hill 🇵🇸🇺🇦
LawrenceThe only thing Muskrat is good at is blowing smoke up Trump's arse. Where it's welcomingly received.
sed
RAK@Joe_Hill @evacide @mattblaze: I suppose that knowing a bit about cars gave me an early insight into how much of a charlatan Musk is.
Steve Duncan@evacide @mattblaze Some folks are born to be Dunning-Kruger poster children.
Howard Chu @ Symas@SteveDuncan @evacide @mattblaze aside - we need a new term for this concept, since the original Dunning Kruger effect was just bad statistical methodology. https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2022/04/08/the-dunning-kruger-effect-is-autocorrelation/
Zoe@hyc @SteveDuncan @evacide @mattblaze the Chinese has a term that roughly translates to little emperor, or third generation rich. It refers to an old idea that by the third generation the family in charge was so disconnected from the everyman they had no concept of struggle.
Jennifer Moore 😷Interesting! Thanks for the link!
sebu
Democracy Matters 
Log 🪵@evacide @mattblaze [Looks in mirror, very intensely.] Yep, that checks out.
Daveography 🇨🇦
That quote is going straight into the bible of my future new religion******
* With attribution of course
** I'm not actually writing a bible
*** I'm not actually starting a religion
Arch Gremlin@evacide @mattblaze Thomas Shedd's website is a SquareSpace Coming Soon page, and while I don't intend to gatekeep what constitutes a "good website", that is not one of them.
Matt Boehm
gudenau@evacide @mattblaze What does it mean that I feel like I'm completely garbage at just about everything?
Kai Klostermann
Abi@evacide @mattblaze
unfortunately "bricked the US treasury" isn't something they're worried about. if they can get their changes working, great, but musk benefits either way.
unfortunately "bricked the US treasury" isn't something they're worried about. if they can get their changes working, great, but musk benefits either way.
Leigh Garland@evacide @mattblaze I should make this my email signature.
ninchuka@evacide @mattblaze if anyone says they are good at X thing they are almost certainly shit at it
Dan McDonald
John "Dobbymoodge" Lamb@evacide @mattblaze this is the most true statement ever spoken by anyone.
Evan Beaver@evacide @mattblaze oh my god inject this toot into my veins
mattg@evacide @mattblaze what if we put the Initech gang from Office Space in charge of the Treasury Department?
arclight
smoochIt is extraordinarily disappoint to see smart people get caught up in the mob frenzy of "technology/ technologists = bad", when the issue of "privileged cunts who have never had to suffer the consequences of their mistakes due to money, and therefore never learned from the occasions, yet use money as a weapon against the rest of us" slides right by, because the same cunts have become experts at dividing (attentions, narratives, and) populations against each other with fucking daft false equivalences
One of the confusing things about reality is that the same outcomes can occur by different motivations
People who did a thing "because x" easily assume others did the same thing "because x", as opposed to other (arbitrarily different) motivations. (but it happens all the time of course)
In this way, criticism directed at an individuals motivation, due to coincidental (though non-causal) alignment of some outcome, is false equivalence (and also daft in this case, as a quick look into my background would make it very clear that i have no idea what an "internet savvy point" even is... anyway)
You do make my point though
This is a classic example of pedantic bs distracting from the root cause of the shit show we're all in
If competency coding (or whatever) is a result of "care and consideration over time", then that same care and consideration over time, applied to arbitrarily different domains, is transferable. And after a while, many of the same patterns of circumstances, process and progress, become clear across pursuits. We're all doing "mostly the same stuff", albeit differently arranged and presented, in different play-pens. Yes there are difference, but not absolute differences, all are relative.
There are plenty of individuals competent at a plurality of pursuits, who may have developed confidence in one, which helped them succeed at another
The problem is not coders (or tech in the broader conversation of the moment)
In fact, let's temporarily veto all blame of "others exhausted by care and consideration over time"
We're all on the same fucking side
Our problem is the class of individuals who "took a punt" and got lucky, (and who are bailed out when they aren't lucky), who act without care and consideration over time
I don't doubt either of your motivation, but can we focus on the fucking baddies pls?
Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬@evacide @mattblaze I had a boss like this once. While he was trying to teach everyone how to code, he also wanted to invent a new game engine, do AI from the ground up and also revolutionize Scrum and Agile. Last I heard was that the CEO got rid of him once he started telling him how to run the company .. although I'm pretty sure he moved on to another job with higher pay after that. Those people, sadly, always fall upwards
Joacim Jacobsson@evacide @mattblaze What you call "pushing to production" they call "high-stakes testing".
Andy Wootton@evacide @mattblaze There seems to be increasing disparity between confidence and ability and most people appear unable to tell the difference. Educational establishments have realised, which isn't A Good Thing. It's easier to teach confidence to many than competence.
Jake Rayson@evacide @mattblaze Applied Dunning Krueger, combined with a severe lack of self-awareness.
Steve Holden@evacide @mattblaze Dunning-Kruger is multi-dimensional!
Flying Pyjamas@evacide @mattblaze The most true statement I read in a long time. 👏🏻
The Doctor@evacide @mattblaze Can I quote you on that?
@drwho @mattblaze You can do anything you want with it.
@evacide @mattblaze Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Simple Nomad@evacide @mattblaze I'm not good at politics, my area of expertise involves computer security. I don't expect politicians to solve computer security problems because they are not qualified. They simply should try to get better at picking the best for the job - without picking the ones who will benefit them the most in the short term. Same goes for politics - I should not try to fix it, but simply get better at picking the best person for the job.
This is a classic example of bringing a hammer to fix the problem and treating every problem like a nail. Except without testing the hammer. Or the nail. Or paying attention how thick the wood is vs how long the nail is.
Feoh@evacide @mattblaze The META Dunning Kreuger effect? :)
VVelox@mattblaze @evacide And we know they are bad at coding based on the screeching they did when they saw a COBOL epoch date when some query they did returned lots of unset values. Instead of going huh-thats-weird and going a bit of quick research they freaked out and though it was sus.
Ericka Simone@evacide also, bad at everything.
Thad@evacide This thing with claiming there are 150-year-olds receiving social security because they don't know an 1875 date serves as an undefined/error code in COBOL.
Like, I don't expect most people to know COBOL. I don't know COBOL.
But I DO know that if you see the same weird value repeated over and over in a data set, it means something, and if you don't know what, you ask somebody who does. @mattblaze