@i0null the ones who got rich enough to buy 'retreat compounds' are the real winners. they can go to their 100% off grid mansion behind 10' high walls and just watch everything melt

but shit will go bad for those folks since they're usually so rich they cant operate a fucking belt buckle without help

@Viss materially yes in the short term. But we are a social species. There is only so long one can survive off-grid.

Live long and prosper 🖖

@i0null @Viss people also usually overlook stuff like gardening. Being self sustaining is hard.

@alex02 @i0null @Viss I would hate being responsible for all my calories. Right now if a pea plant gets diseased and dies I can go buy a kilo of frozen peas from the store that had truck-delivered goods from a factory that received a delivery from a large farm dozens of people work at.

If I was pretending to be self sufficient I just wouldn't be able to have a meal next week. And I'd never have coffee again.

@i0null the trick is to become one of the horrors