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Asilene Jan 12, 2025

"That's an aspect of this that I haven't heard many people mention: moving your company to Texas in 2024 and 2025 is a pretty brazenly misogynistic move, in that you're demanding the women of your company move to a state in which their lives will be put at greater risk in comparison to the company's men."

Zuckerberg's plan to move Meta employees to Texas isn't just toadying—he's also a vapid, misogynistic creep
https://www.unchartedblue.com/zuckerbergs-plan-to-move-meta-employees-to-texas-isnt-just-toadying-hes-also-a-vapid-misogynistic-creep/

Zuckerberg's plan to move Meta employees to Texas isn't just toadying—he's also a vapid, misogynistic creep

Promising to relocate to the dangerously anti-abortion Texas, a state still vowing to block women's travel rights, is a 'Zuck'-led act of oozing corporate misogyny

Uncharted Blue

Opus Jan 11, 2025

@joeinwynnewood
This. 100%

Nicholas Jan 11, 2025

@joeinwynnewood interesting. So this will likely push away women and younger families. Hopefully they work at companies that prioritize their rights and healthcare. In the end the Texas tech company will loose many great employees

okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin Jan 11, 2025

@joeinwynnewood
Same for young married families. Given the current climate, i wouldn't move my family there if my wife was child-bearing age. No way. They barely have gynecological care there anymore.

Ministerofimpediments Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood …well… the first Facebook was a site for college bros to rank women by looks…so yeah.

jensilber Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood Especially for jobs where the workers probably could do their work from their homes no matter where their homes are located.

Cara Bruar Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood first thing I thought of.

xs4me2 Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood

Exactly...

Felichs Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood

A couple of months ago a recruiter tried to get me interested in a role in Texas. I am resident.in a country with excellent care and other public services. Quick nah from me.

CheriSwears Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood he'll also get richer - TX doesn't have a state income tax.

Oreo Speedwagon II 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇨🇦Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood No way I'd live in Texas if I was a woman of childbearing age. No. Way.

JamieGC 🏴 🏳️‍🌈 🖖Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood trying to run off his lgbt staff too.

JWSGeek Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood Oracle was moving their HQ to Austin, but had a similar issue (even before Dobbs) of nobody wanting to move to Texas - then for women's rights but also rejecting the declining education standards (Austin is better than most, but in that state it is no longer saying much).

So they kept their Bay Area place and instead looked to make a second HQ in TN where (believe it or not) things are slightly better.

0ddj0bb Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood yeah i also saw a women in cyber organization announce their next big conference is in Dallas. Their previous event a year or two back was Nashville.

These folks dont care even wheb their org literally is about women

Grassroots Joe Jan 12, 2025

That's very disappointing.

Nicole Parsons Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood

Tech billionaires hate wage parity lawsuits so they move to a red state and "voluntary attrition" rids their companies of future litigants, preemptively.

Republican megadonors are desperate to keep the underpaid members of their workforce but only if they agree to worse working conditions in a red state.

https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-facebook-pay-gap-hire-more-women-ireland-uk-2023-3

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/10/read-the-memo-meta-announces-end-of-its-dei-programs.html

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/meta-platforms-pay-14-bln-settle-texas-lawsuit-over-facial-recognition-data-2024-07-30/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/30/disney-female-employees-wage-disparity-lawsuit

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220610005611/en/Plaintiffs-and-Google-Agree-to-118-Million-Settlement-of-Pay-Equity-Class-Action

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/oracle-pay-discrimination-settlement-18667537.php

Meta pays women less than men as it aims to hire more women by 2024

Mandatory disclosures in the U.K. and Ireland show women who work at Meta earn much less than men, and they receive smaller bonuses, too.

Business Insider

Grassroots Joe Jan 12, 2025

Pay equity is a problem everywhere, certainly in the tech sector.

I worked for a healthcare IT company based in KC, MO with similar issues.
I happily told a woman colleague what I was getting paid.
We were among a relatively small number of higher paid consultants working remote as a legacy of several acquisitions, but she was still making ~$20k less than me.
She lived in CA and sued. The company settled. I hope she took them to the cleaners in return for their precious NDA.

Jim Sullivan Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood Not really surprising that he's a misogynistic creep. He started Facebook to rate women at Harvard. He ranked those that thought he was icky low. At that was before he had the rat penis surgery.

dogzilla Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood @n69n I don’t actually have any sympathy for anyone still working for Meta in 2024-5. By this point, they know exactly who they’re working for. To continue to draw a paycheck from Meta says you care more about your pocketbook that the damage you’re doing in the world. Don’t expect sympathy from me.

Grassroots Joe Jan 12, 2025

@dogzilla @n69n

Well, if you were part of the trust & security team, you were at least working to mitigate the damage.

Perhaps that's not a good enough reason, but as we learned during The Criminal's 1st term, it's helpful to have people with some kind of moral compass around to prevent Armageddon.

dogzilla Jan 12, 2025

@joeinwynnewood @n69n I don’t buy the “mitigate the damage” argument. Mitigate the damage to the public? Not believable, given Meta’s documented history. Mitigate the damage to Meta by being an ineffective fig leaf that gets dropped like a hot potato at the first opportunity as just happened. *That’s* believable.

Grassroots Joe Jan 13, 2025

@dogzilla @n69n

Actually stopping hate speech and attacks on marginalized people isn't mitigating damage?

That's what their trust and security people were doing.

dogzilla Jan 13, 2025

@joeinwynnewood @n69n Well, it put a band-aid on the problem and ultimately achieved nothing because look at what just happened - those programs are gone. In the meantime, they provided a fig leaf that allowed the platform to continue pumping out disinformation that absolutely helped elect extremists. Many of which created or tacitly support the current IRL anti-LGBTQ+ environment.

Glad they prevented online abuse, but they contributed to real-world abuse.

Grassroots Joe Jan 13, 2025

@dogzilla @n69n

I'm not going to blame people for doing the right thing in the context they found themselves in.

I'm going to blame the people driving the bus, unaccountable billionaires who care only about increasing their wealth and power.

The only way we're going to change what's been happening is making it clear, every day, who is responsible.

Spoiler alert, it isn't Black and brown people, nor immigrants or trans people, nor any line worker. It's wealthy regressive-right elites.

dogzilla Jan 13, 2025

@joeinwynnewood @n69n I agree with who’s to blame, but I think we have to focus on what’s actually effective at protecting the vulnerable, not what makes us feel good about taking a paycheck from shitty, dangerous companies.