After spending many holidays with family living in places that are poorly served by public transportation and have few or no amenities that are easily reachable without a car, I've realized that those two factors are going to be at the top of the list when thinking about where I might want to live as I get older (assuming I have luxury of choosing).

I finally learned to drive because I didn't want to feel trapped by not being able to. But the real trap is not having any other options.

@wordridden I think about this math so often 💜 We always talk about eventually landing somewhere more rural, but the transportation trade-offs feel incredibly sharp and hard.

@beep my dream since I first saw the internet was to someday live in the middle of nowhere but with fast internet.

After five years on five acres in the hills (finally with fiber internet) the biggest drawback is every trip involves cars, and the 10-15min trip into town for anything is getting old. I wish I could walk or ride everywhere.

@mathowie Yeah, I think I’m reaching this point too. I’d dearly, dearly love more space, and more quiet, but easy access to mass transit (and healthcare facilities) is going to get more important, not less
@beep @mathowie I feel all of this. SF still has my heart because I can walk to everything I need — like, literally, everything — but man I wish it were quieter. I guess that’s why getting out on the road is still a draw. We get our space, nature, and peace. If only it didn’t take a minimum of 3 hours to get to that point, though.

@jenschuetz Oof, I hear that 💜

Gotta say, I’m so inspired by what you two have built for yourselves: that you’ve got the city at your doorstep, but the long sojourns are there when you need them.

@beep Thanks for this, Ethan. It is easy to forget that we are pretty fortunate to architect our lives a certain way. 🩷

@mathowie @beep I've also always dreamed of living somewhere off the beaten track, but the beaten track is a really a lifeline as you age.

It's not even so much about the hassle of having to drive everywhere, but about what happens if/when you can't drive anymore for some reason. My MIL lives in a small town where you really need a car to shop for food (unless you are *very* fit and can hike up a massive hill carrying a load of groceries). My MIL doesn't drive, so she's reliant on neighbors. One of her neighbors can't drive anymore because of his eyesight, and another has become a menace behind the wheel but continues to drive anyway. Luckily she has lots of other people looking out for her, but her situation has given me a lot to think about.

(Ironically, perhaps, her situation is partially what prompted me to finally learn to drive in the first place—but I had misidentified the real problem at the heart of that situation.)

@mathowie @beep we are in a similar situation (like where we live, don’t like driving so much), and thinking about the future. I wonder if e-bike infrastructure or some sort of low-power self driving car system will emerge to save the day. Putting any hope in tech seems dumb, but not being hopeful about the future also sucks.
@mathowie @beep it me (only around 1 acre, tho)