LittleEvaDec 3, 2024
Elena Rossini ⁂

“if we give our data to companies, the wealthy will rule.

If we give our data to governments, we will end up with some form of authoritarianism.

Only if the people keep their data will society be free.

#Privacy matters because it gives power to the people.”

— Carissa Véliz, “Privacy is Power”

Dec 3, 2024 at 6:13amWeb
Show threadElena Rossini ⁂Dec 11, 2024

File under: Privacy is a basic human right, on constant assault by #BigTech.

Today I learned that several #Android apps have decided to ban the use of "non-Google" approved OSes.

Post by @Sunny on #Lemmy: "Revolut, McDonald's, and Authy have banned the use of GrapheneOS" https://lemmy.ca/post/34609283

I find this really troubling. I don't care about McDonalds or Authy. But banking! I'm a Revolut customer and I was considering switching to a Pixel 9 with #GrapheneOS. This is chilling.

#privacy

Show threadguentherDec 11, 2024

@_elena @Sunny

Isn't only reason that any of these apps worked before that Graphene included Google Play services in the first place?

Show threadChristoph SchmeesDec 11, 2024

@_elena

If your bank app refuses to run under #CustomROM change the Bank.
I for one use only CustomROM (LineageOS, /e/OS, iodéOS, VollaOS) and don't have problems with banking apps.
I would never buy or use a device designed and produced by #Google. 🤮

@Sunny

Show threadDarkmm (free 🇵🇸)Dec 11, 2024
@_elena @Sunny Unfortunately, I am also a Revolut bank user, I sent them a complaint that I do not want Google on my phone, so that they should respect my decision and allow me to continue using the app, even though I have pure Android. I gave them a rating of 1 on Google Play because it takes away my right to use the app.
#privacy #grapheneos #myrights #degoogle
Show threadjnthnklJan 22, 2025

@mrakmm @_elena @Sunny You could share Revolut Android compatibility matrix available in Sapio on social media to put pressure on the bank.

https://github.com/jonathanklee/Sapio

GitHub - jonathanklee/Sapio: Android Open Source API compatibility

Android Open Source API compatibility. Contribute to jonathanklee/Sapio development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadCaptain DanDec 11, 2024
@_elena @ben

Thats why more and more people:

- Have one device for banking and other services which require your legal ID (gov apps, medical), keep it at home, no SIM.

- Have Pixel9 with Graphene for everyday communication device use.
Show threadsoaprootDec 11, 2024
@_elena @Sunny From a privacy point of view you are often best off with a web site rather than an app (using, say, a browser like Mull). Not trying to oversimplify a somewhat complicated situation, but it is something I am trying to figure out as I try to map out a future which is more based on F-Droid and the like than the more closed alternatives.
Show threadeswillwalkerDec 11, 2024
@soaproot @_elena @Sunny Agreed. I use almost no apps. Everything via browser. The companies are always pushing their apps, but I just say NO!
Show threadIcePeeDec 3, 2024
@_elena Porque no los dos? Authoritarianism by corporation?
Show threadGraeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Dec 3, 2024
@_elena I start to wonder if this is backwards. Big companies will always find a way to get the data if they want it. But it only has value if we allow it to. After all - what do they do with it? Advertise, badly? ... Which we can simply ignore, and let them waste their time and money.
Show threadBeverlyDec 3, 2024
@_elena That horse may have left the barn, but we should make an effort.
Show threadmastotoDec 3, 2024
@_elena
Show threadPhoenix GeeDec 3, 2024
@_elena Oh NOW they're coming up with this? Took them only... i dunno... 30 years?!
Show threadinpcDec 3, 2024
@_elena Whilst I fully agree, it's becoming ever more difficult.
Show threadKeith 🇦🇺Dec 3, 2024
@_elena thanks for all your posts Elena! I love all you stand for in tech. Brilliant blog too!
Show threadOtyughDec 3, 2024
@[email protected] I think there is a reverse thing too. Governement and companies both will always tend to corruption if their data aren't fully accessible from their citizens/employee.

"Beware of he [institution] who would deny you access to [their] information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. "

Privacy should only be for people, not money maker's schemes and corrupt politicians as it is now.
Show threadsudoer777Dec 3, 2024

@_elena IMO it depends more on what they do with the data than whether they have it.

Having healthcare data accessible from one place with proper security measures so only healthcare institutions can access it is more efficient than having it scattered everywhere, and having this data readily available when the patient is unable to provide it is necessary for providing proper healthcare.

Collecting anonymized analytical data is helpful for finding ways services can be optimized even though some data may be able to be deanonymized.

Forcing corporations and wealthy and powerful people to be transparent about their actions and finances can help them be held accountable for how they abuse them. In this situation privacy can actually be a bad thing and it doesn't help make society more free.

Collecting data for ads, profit incentives, or human rights abuses is just bad though so privacy is very important here.

Show threadfenixDec 7, 2024

@_elena so true...

!

#happy1984

let's watch our digital step and...

#hack back ?

put some color !