Elena Rossini ⁂Dec 3, 2024

“if we give our data to companies, the wealthy will rule.

If we give our data to governments, we will end up with some form of authoritarianism.

Only if the people keep their data will society be free.

#Privacy matters because it gives power to the people.”

— Carissa Véliz, “Privacy is Power”

Show threadElena Rossini ⁂

File under: Privacy is a basic human right, on constant assault by #BigTech.

Today I learned that several #Android apps have decided to ban the use of "non-Google" approved OSes.

Post by @Sunny on #Lemmy: "Revolut, McDonald's, and Authy have banned the use of GrapheneOS" https://lemmy.ca/post/34609283

I find this really troubling. I don't care about McDonalds or Authy. But banking! I'm a Revolut customer and I was considering switching to a Pixel 9 with #GrapheneOS. This is chilling.

#privacy

Dec 11, 2024 at 9:11amWeb
Show threadguentherDec 11, 2024

@_elena @Sunny

Isn't only reason that any of these apps worked before that Graphene included Google Play services in the first place?

Show threadChristoph SchmeesDec 11, 2024

@_elena

If your bank app refuses to run under #CustomROM change the Bank.
I for one use only CustomROM (LineageOS, /e/OS, iodéOS, VollaOS) and don't have problems with banking apps.
I would never buy or use a device designed and produced by #Google. 🤮

@Sunny

Show threadDarkmm (free 🇵🇸)Dec 11, 2024
@_elena @Sunny Unfortunately, I am also a Revolut bank user, I sent them a complaint that I do not want Google on my phone, so that they should respect my decision and allow me to continue using the app, even though I have pure Android. I gave them a rating of 1 on Google Play because it takes away my right to use the app.
#privacy #grapheneos #myrights #degoogle
Show threadjnthnklJan 22, 2025

@mrakmm @_elena @Sunny You could share Revolut Android compatibility matrix available in Sapio on social media to put pressure on the bank.

https://github.com/jonathanklee/Sapio

GitHub - jonathanklee/Sapio: Android Open Source API compatibility

Android Open Source API compatibility. Contribute to jonathanklee/Sapio development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadCaptain DanDec 11, 2024
@_elena @ben

Thats why more and more people:

- Have one device for banking and other services which require your legal ID (gov apps, medical), keep it at home, no SIM.

- Have Pixel9 with Graphene for everyday communication device use.
Show threadsoaprootDec 11, 2024
@_elena @Sunny From a privacy point of view you are often best off with a web site rather than an app (using, say, a browser like Mull). Not trying to oversimplify a somewhat complicated situation, but it is something I am trying to figure out as I try to map out a future which is more based on F-Droid and the like than the more closed alternatives.
Show threadeswillwalkerDec 11, 2024
@soaproot @_elena @Sunny Agreed. I use almost no apps. Everything via browser. The companies are always pushing their apps, but I just say NO!