Laffy

YES!

“Pres #Biden has decided to issue a pardon for his son Hunter and is expected to announce it Sunday night..

The decision marks a reversal for the president, who has repeatedly said he would not use his executive authority to pardon his son or commute his sentence.…

The pardon is expected to cover both #HunterBiden’s gun charges conviction and guilty plea, the people with direct knowledge of the discussions said”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-issue-pardon-son-hunter-biden-rcna182369 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-issue-pardon-son-hunter-biden-rcna182369?cid=mob_npd_nn_ios_mar

President Biden pardons his son Hunter Biden

Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Sunday night, a reversal for the president, who repeatedly said he would not use his executive authority to pardon his son or commute his sentence.

NBC News
Dec 2, 2024 at 12:18amWeb
Show threadMary trying to copeDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff some good news!
Show threadCallalilyDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff
Good. Cuz Trump is going to pardon the Jan 6 insurrection people.
Show threadPaul Chambers🚧Dec 2, 2024
@Callalily @GottaLaff If we knew that was 100% true, Biden should screw them all over. Pardon them, beat Trump to the punch and if they decide to use their pardons as trophies, it will be signed by Biden. Only if we knew for sure Trump was going to pardon them, which, who knows with backstabbing, ETTD, trump
Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteDec 2, 2024
@paul Personally I wish they could find some state charges to slap any of them with since the creep can’t pardon at the state level. Every blue Gov should investigate the creeps from their states.
Show threadJulian Andres Klode 🏳️‍🌈Dec 2, 2024
@Pineywoozle @paul Most legal experts would agree with you but I'm sure SCOTUS would be amenable to the idea that " Offenses against the United States" also applies to states if Trump wants to use it that way. It's never been tested so far!
Show thread@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNoteDec 2, 2024
@[email protected], I thought about that. Breaks my heart what he wants to do to America.
Show threadHdunaganDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff GO FOR IT
Show threadLaurie KayDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff Good! Otherwise, he would rot in jail after the new regime takes over.
Show threadJeff MooreDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff Okay. Now he needs to commute the sentences of all federal death-row inmates to life in prison, to forestall a killing spree under the next Trump regime.
Show threadPaul Chambers🚧Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff Thank goodness. He needs to do a blanket pardon of a lot of people of any and all federal crimes with the exception of a few, like murder and sex abuse, etc, because the new admin is going to drag out everyone for everything and it's going to bankrupt and ruin a lot of people, not counting legal jeopardy.
Show threadDebbie WadeDec 2, 2024
@paul @GottaLaff he needs to at least preemptively pardon Liz Chaney and everyone else that stood up to dumbass
Show threadGene Cowan 🏳️‍🌈Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff another exciting opportunity for right wing gun nuts to display incredible hypocrisy.
Show threadTheNovemberFella ✊🏳️‍🌈 🇺🇦☸️🛰️🚀Dec 2, 2024

@GottaLaff Honestly, under normal circumstances, I wouldn't approve of this. However, these are decidedly NOT normal circumstances, and I highly endorse President Biden's decision, and I hope he takes every action he can to keep his friends and family safe for the incoming administration.

On a side note, can't wait to hear MTG and her asshole friends whine about this. I hope it keeps them up nights. 😁

Show threadOtownKimDec 2, 2024
@TheNovemberMan @GottaLaff Same.
Show threadJulian ♪🌻🥥🌴♫Dec 2, 2024
@TheNovemberMan
I wonder if they'll even remember Hunter in a year. He was only useful as a weapon against his father, and once Joe is no longer President nor candidate, he shouldn't be relevant anymore. Then again, they still can't shut up about Hillary so who knows.
@GottaLaff
Show threadPlantingTrees😷🇨🇦🌻👠Dec 2, 2024

@TFFPrisoner @TheNovemberMan @GottaLaff

The co-dependency of MAGAts should be legendary by now. If they don't have someone to beat up, they're nobody and nothing.

Show threadPaul Chambers🚧Dec 2, 2024

@GottaLaff The #HunterBiden Pardon

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/12/01/statement-from-president-joe-biden-11/

==============


Executive Grant of Clemency
Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
President of the United States of America

To All to Whom These Presents Shall Come, Greeting:

Be It Known, That This Day, I, Joseph R. Biden, Jr., President of the United States, Pursuant to My Powers Under Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, of the Constitution, Have Granted Unto

ROBERT HUNTER BIDEN

A Full and Unconditional Pardon

For those offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024, including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted (including any that have resulted in convictions) by Special Counsel David C. Weiss in Docket No. 1:23-cr-00061-MN in the United States District Court for the District of Delaware and Docket No. 2:23-CR-00599-MCS-1 in the United States District Court for the Central District of California.

IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF I have hereunto signed my name and caused the Pardon to be recorded with the Department of Justice.

Done at the City of Washington this 1st day of December in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Twenty-four and of the Independence of the United States the Two Hundred and Forty-ninth.

================ #USPol #Biden .

Statement from President Joe Biden | The White House

Today, I signed a pardon for my son Hunter. From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department’s decision-making, and I

The White House
Show threadCookiefiendDec 2, 2024
@paul @GottaLaff
Good. Now appoint 4 new Supreme Court justices.
Show threadOtownKimDec 2, 2024
@paul @GottaLaff ❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰
Show threadPlantingTrees😷🇨🇦🌻👠Dec 2, 2024

@paul @GottaLaff

SWEET.   

Show threadatticus1956Dec 2, 2024

@GottaLaff

HOORAY!!

Show threadMark SmithDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff this is a horrible idea and will kill the Democratic Party. Remember Ford and Nixon?
Show threadStrider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff @markrsmith and if he had not, all would be hunky-dory…? I don’t think so.
Show threadMark SmithDec 2, 2024
@UweHalfHand @GottaLaff and if he had not, we could trust the Democrats to uphold the law.
Show threadStrider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽Dec 2, 2024
@markrsmith @GottaLaff uh… forgive me if, regardless of what he did or didn’t do, I am skeptical about the rule of law going forward. “rule of law” made to rob us all blind, maybe.
Show threadMark SmithDec 2, 2024

@UweHalfHand @GottaLaff I will admit that my pragmatism includes a strong idealist streak.

Surely he could have broken norms in a less personally fulfilling way. Commuting death sentences. Pardoning Jack Smith.

Show threadStrider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff @markrsmith and I hope he will also do these things. But I’m sure his son would at best rot in prison for the entire duration of Republicans’ hold on power. At this point I’m not at all convinced that he would only rot in prison.
Show threadOldAndCrankyDec 2, 2024
@markrsmith @UweHalfHand @GottaLaff you cannot compare this to Ford and Nixon.
Show threadCatherine is not complacentDec 2, 2024
@markrsmith @GottaLaff except that Hunter Biden is a private citizen who was dragged before congress for charges that would have been a fine and community service for anyone else. Remove the familial relationship and pardoning him is logical.
Show threadOtownKimDec 2, 2024
@markrsmith @GottaLaff Hunter is not an elected official that took an oath
Show threadLaffyDec 2, 2024

@otownKim @markrsmith Exactly.

Read this Mark:

https://mastodon.social/@GottaLaff/113583765604361441

Show threadMark SmithDec 2, 2024

@GottaLaff @otownKim I’ve read it. I went through the same thought process and came up with a different answer.

Does that make me a bad Democrat? Maybe.

Does it make me a bad person? No.

Show threadMark SmithDec 2, 2024
@otownKim @GottaLaff I suspect that the gun application included an oath. The one in NJ does.
Show threadAlexandros2112 🇨🇦Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff good for him 👍
Show threadcarbon offsets are BS ☕️🥬Dec 2, 2024

@GottaLaff

I'm confused. Why is this a good thing?

I'm absolutely exhausted with well connected people being immune from the law.

I also mean those who didn't deserve pardons from Trump, Trump himself being able to attempt a coup and get away with it, etc.

Am I the only one who actually mean't "no one should be above the law"?

Show threadDanette 🐬Dec 2, 2024
@plasma4045 I recommend you read @emptywheel.bsky.social on this https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/12/01/joe-biden-prepares-to-pardon-his-son/ for the whole story but mostly it was because Hunter should not have been charged in the first place. Marcy has written about this extensively so you can click the “Hunter Biden” hyperlink to see why this is good.
@GottaLaff
Joe Biden Pardons Hunter - emptywheel

In the face of Trump's threats of retaliation, Joe Biden has changed his mind about pardoning his son.

emptywheel
Show threadcarbon offsets are BS ☕️🥬Dec 2, 2024

@Danetteb @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff

That does sway me a bit. I have to admit I have not been following this issue at all.

This is going to be so difficult to argue against… from now into eternity, any time Trump or whatever POS comes next pardons someone and sane people complain, they’ll say “but Hunter” and that will be the end of it in their minds.

Fffuuuuuuuuu

Show threadDanette 🐬Dec 2, 2024
@plasma4045 they will always say that. It’s been “but Hunter Bidens laptop” for ages already. It was Hilary’s emails before that. It was Obama’s birth certificate… and before that it was the Blue dress (Clinton) Democrats are never pure enough while GQP are completely corrupt @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff
Show threadcarbon offsets are BS ☕️🥬Dec 2, 2024

@Danetteb @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff

But this is a real pardon.

I definitely get what you mean and they don’t need an excuse to do criminal stuff but this is actually happening. He’s pardoning his son. It’s not a good look even if the facts of it make sense to sane people.

Show threadDanette 🐬Dec 2, 2024
@plasma4045 I’m not sure why your handwringing about this when Biden is leaving office and has nothing to lose- meanwhile Trump is getting ready to destroy democracy. This is minutiae @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff
Show threadcarbon offsets are BS ☕️🥬Dec 2, 2024

@Danetteb @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff

Because it gives off a real “it’s ok when we do it” vibe. Justified or not.

Show threadPlantingTrees😷🇨🇦🌻👠Dec 2, 2024

@plasma4045 @Danetteb @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff

Bullshit. Again, False Equivalence. It was the right thing to do.

And Dems don't need approval from MAGAts. Any Dem who worries about what these morons think is already trapped in their BS and is not free.

Worrying about appearances is what got Dems into trouble.

Show threadLaffyDec 2, 2024

@JaneDoeTheFirst Again, read Joyce Vance on this: https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-week-ahead-fa9?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=br61&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

@plasma4045 @Danetteb @emptywheel.bsky.social

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Show threadLaffyDec 2, 2024
@JaneDoeTheFirst Sorry, that was for >>> @plasma4045 @Danetteb @emptywheel.bsky.social
Show threadCatherine is not complacentDec 2, 2024
@plasma4045 @Danetteb @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff OK pretend for a moment it isn’t the presidents son getting the pardon. Review the charges, the hearings, the slavering press coverage . His charges wouldn’t even have risen to a court appearance if he were anyone else. I think it was the right thing to do as we know Trump is a vengeful little ferret.
Show threadDanette 🐬Dec 2, 2024
@CatDragon exactly. @plasma4045 @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff
Show threadLaffyDec 2, 2024
@Danetteb @CatDragon @plasma4045 @emptywheel.bsky.social https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-week-ahead-fa9?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=br61&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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Show threadKyle Memoir 🍉🐧Dec 2, 2024

@Danetteb @plasma4045 @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff

Biden baldly lied to America repeatedly about this. How is that okay?

Show threadDanette 🐬Dec 2, 2024
@f800gecko Biden did not lie to America. If you perpetuate that- you are lying. @plasma4045 @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff
Show threadcarbon offsets are BS ☕️🥬Dec 2, 2024

@Danetteb @f800gecko @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff

He said several times he would not pardon his son or commute his sentence.

That was a lie.

I understand what you’re saying and where you’re coming from but that’s just a lie. Straight up.

Show threadDean F.Dec 2, 2024
@Danetteb @plasma4045 @emptywheel.bsky.social @GottaLaff That popping sound you hear is MAGA heads exploding from coast to coast. Good for you, Mr. President!
Show threadPlantingTrees😷🇨🇦🌻👠Dec 2, 2024

@plasma4045 @GottaLaff

Injustices can be rained upon even the well-connected. Well-connected is not the issue. Righting a wrong is.

Biden is not the barking yam. False Equivalence 101.

Show threadAlexandros2112 🇨🇦Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff he now needs to offer preemptive pardons for everyone that asshole Trump is gonna go after because fuck Trump and all his psycho maga idiots
Show threadDanette 🐬Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff that’s great! This has been a travesty
Show threadMFennVT has movedDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff Good! Use your power, sir!
Show threadpeterpohlenzDec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff the pardon power of the president should be revoked. it has been abused by trump.
Show threadStrider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽Dec 2, 2024
@peterpohlenz @GottaLaff thoroughly granting your second sentence, how do you propose to approach the first? If we could do that, we could unfuck a whole lotta things.
Show threadpeterpohlenzDec 2, 2024
@UweHalfHand @GottaLaff constitutional amendment. the president is not a monarch.
Show threadStrider Uwe 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇲🇽Dec 2, 2024
@peterpohlenz @GottaLaff Yes, of course constitutional amendment. I’m fully aware of the nominal mechanism; I’m asking a practical question. A constitutional amendment is practically impossible to get through in the present political climate.
Show threadMichelleRN, Former CHPN, Ret.Dec 2, 2024
@GottaLaff
I am sure he struggled over this.
Knowing what is likely to come from the Supreme Orange Buffoon, it's the only thing he could do.