Our Very Strange Search for “Sea Level”

Brooke Jarvis considers the history behind the search for sea level, as described in a new book by Wilko Graf von Hardenberg, and probes what it tells us about science, global warming, and life on our changeable planet.

The New Yorker

The article ends with a reference to the Okjökull glacier memorial plaque, one of the most pre-haunted things I have ever seen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okj%C3%B6kull

Okjökull - Wikipedia

@meetar Do we have this memorial plague in #OpenStreetMap already? I can't find it from a quick check 👀
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The article ends with a reference to the Okjökull glacier memorial plaque, one of the most pre-haunted things I have ever seen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okj%C3%B6kull

@meetar @Shanmonster Sadly, I suspect we won’t have to wait 200 years.

@MichaelPorter
@meetar @Shanmonster

yeah, at this point it feels like within my lifetime

@meetar

That gives me shivers every time I see a picture of it.

@meetar
I don't need a time machine to know we didn't.
@meetar I wonder what elevation this plaque is, cuz I imagine the possibility that maybe in 200 years the photograph of it would be an underwater shot.
@amatecha Turns out this exact information is in the wiki article! 1114 meters (3655 feet).
@meetar hahah of course! That's what I get for not clicking through. I didn't think there would be info about the plaque itself on the page about the glacier. Cool - thanks! I guess that one won't be submerged by water anytime soon, then. Uhhh, otherwise things went REALLY awry 😅
@meetar I remember when we thought we could stop at 350 ppm
@meetar 200 years looks /very/ optimistic
@meetar @ligniform Future generations will not view us kindly...
@meetar ouch. thanks for the link to article. ouch.
@meetar Living in the longest era of "Told You So" in the history of mankind.
@meetar this obituary to the Ok glacier was written by Icelandic writer Andri Magnason. andrimagnason.com
A moving and detailed conversation about the glacier and climate change and how the pyramids tell a background story can be found here:https://emergencemagazine.org/interview/on-time-and-water/
On Time and Water – with Andri Snær Magnason

In this interview, Icelandic writer and documentary filmmaker Andri Snær Magnason discusses our relationship to time in an age of ecological crisis.

Emergence Magazine
Peter Richardson (@meetar@mastodon.xyz)

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@meetar
The times have changed. I remember when plaques would be all uppercase! What a shift!

@JonChevreau

@meetar One risk is that climate change negationists are actually right, none of the glaciers will actually melt, not for climate change at least, and this plaque will be regarded as the witness of one of the biggest collective paranoia moments in history.
@Cazzandro
Excuse me, but what are you trying to say?
@meetar
@oliphaunt @meetar Just wondering, suppose we are all wrong, there is no #globalwarming and in a few years we find that #glaciers melt for natural causes, non human driven. Then, the plaque above would take on a very different meaning for anyone reading it in a not distant future. It would become a monument to one of the greatest errors of judgment in history. The recognition of the arrogance of those who think they know what's going on, but are actually groping in the dark. The testimony of the gullibility of the #human race that would remain forever engraved in stone.

@meetar DAMN. This could be another chapter of the "This Place Is Not a Place of Honor" plaque.

We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.
This place was a place of honor.
Something valued was here.

@meetar @stjepanlukac https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2

5 years on & another 10 ppm added.

Daily CO2

Continual updates of daily CO2 levels recorded at the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii. The page features NOAA MLO data and charts with charts and links for Scripps MLO data.

@meetar

Deeply poignant.

Will there be anyone to read it in 200 years, I wonder.

@Edelruth @meetar
What you’re suggesting would be that ALL 8 billion people (plus) and ALL of their descendants in every single biome, every remote hermit, and every doomsday prepper died within two centuries.

I’m not suggesting they’ll all be cheerful, but I don’t think literally every single human being currently alive and every single one of their kids or kids’ kids etc will all die.

@MxVerda @meetar

I wrote an answer, then decided you are good people who deserve not to be depressed by it.

@Edelruth @meetar

… I am so sorry.

May I offer you a queer ADHD video in this trying time? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjdrUksw8b0

Folgers Coffee Christmas Incest Commercial 2009

YouTube
@meetar I feel like someone should print a plaque quoting the Exonn research paper from the 60s that confirmed climate change is real and man made and will have catastrophic consequences if not addressed, and just install it beside that one.
@meetar #etymology I wonder whether the word jökull is related to yokel.

I have to do that, lest the prospect of losing glaciers gets me depressed.

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Switzerland's alpine glaciers have lost 10% of their volume over the last two years alone, the Swiss Academy of Sciences reported, calling the sudden reduction clear evidence of the "very critical state" of the climate. The glaciers have shed as much ice in two years as they did in the 30 years between 1960 and 1990.

The rate of ice loss in 2023 was 4%, the second worst year on record after 2022, when they lost 6% of their volume.

#glaciers
#Switzerland
@photography

@meetar Do we have this memorial plague in #OpenStreetMap already? I can't find it from a quick check 👀
@meetar @eliasp Strong “We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture. This place is not a place of honor.”-vibes in that one.