Technically not wrong…
@codepo8 Apple Chrome? It's webkit after all!
@sandor @codepo8 “Pre Chrome”, “Papa Chrome” ? ;)
@TheDJ @codepo8 "Boomer Chrome" (too much?!)
@sandor @codepo8 Maybe ten years ago, but they've diverged quite far nowadays.
@stilescrisis @sandor @codepo8
I'm told safari on Android runs Chromium instead of Webkit. So at least for Android users, Apple Chrome is a thing
@4bz @sandor @codepo8 Apple does not make an Android Safari. If such an app exists it is just a scam.

@stilescrisis @sandor @codepo8

Must have been, it's no longer in the app store lol

@sandor @codepo8 Safari could be "Chrome's old dad".

@deBaer @sandor @codepo8 So... KDE is the grandma no one talks about. And, Firefox is grandma everyone expected?

(WebKit is based on KHTML/KJS, but many people expected the first Apple browser to be based on Gecko)

@codepo8 "Not Chrome" should be labeled "that other google browser"

https://librewolf.net/

Not uncommon to miss a fork in the road. I think this is the mozilla fork that is not a google browser.

LibreWolf Browser

A custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom.

@drazraeltod I mean, to be fair, it was funded by Yahoo! for a little while @codepo8

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mozilla-strikes-firefox-search-deal-222506640.html

Mozilla strikes Firefox search deal with Yahoo, ending long partnership with Google

A long-standing partnership between Google and Mozilla Corporation, makers of the Firefox browser, ends this month. Today, Mozilla announced it has signed a ...

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@codepo8
As an Opera user, who actually likes the browser:

How come it is labelled "Chinese Chrome"?

Am I missing something?

@ruedi @codepo8
It's owned by a Chinese company. Also, it's not really the same browser as it was some years ago. Back then they still ran their own engine (Presto), now it's the same Chromium base as most other browsers. Some of the original Opera team went and made Vivaldi, which brings back some of the old Opera's features but is still Chrome at heart.

@TFFPrisoner @codepo8
Thanks for the info. Been using Opera for years, always liked it.

Might have to check out Vivaldi then.

Any advice on how best to switch and use the other browser?

@ruedi @codepo8
I wish I knew, I'm actually using both intermittently. You can import data from one browser to the other but there are things Vivaldi does that annoy me like not having the smart clipboard function or making unhelpful autocompletes. Then again, Opera also has issues with autocomplete, occasionally making me visit sites I'm not interested at all because I hit enter too quickly 🙄 Plus it's hogging a lot of resources, Vivaldi seems a bit better in that regard.
@ruedi @TFFPrisoner @codepo8 @Vivaldi is on Linux as Flatpak. Since Opera and Vivaldi are both Chromium, all extensions will work & you can import/export both your Passwords and Bookmarks as files from chrome://password-manager & chrome://bookmarks (these links work on any Chromium based browser).
@ruedi @codepo8 Maybe that Opera was sold to a Chinese consortium in 2016?
@wortwart @codepo8
Oops.... really must have missed that. 🤭
@ruedi @codepo8 I used to be a big Opera fan myself but I don't trust them anymore and see Vivaldi as old Opera's true heir.
@wortwart @codepo8
Just downloaded it. 👍🏼

@wortwart @codepo8
First impression: Looks good.

Need to do some personalisation and get my bookmarks in the right place.

@wortwart @ruedi @codepo8 Why don't you trust them anymore?
@pino @ruedi @codepo8 Crypto, AI, China. This has nothing to do with the company that once built their own browser engine and where people like von Tetzchner and Hakon Lie worked.

@ruedi Because it's owned by a Chinese company, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)

@codepo8

Opera (web browser) - Wikipedia

@angedestenebres @ruedi @codepo8 What makes you think that Chinese corporate capitalism is worse than US corporate capitalism?
@codepo8 @angedestenebres @ruedi Unlikely, IMHO. China may be many things, but laissez faire is surely not one of them.
@ruedi @codepo8 no idea about China's involvement but I would have labeled it "loan shark chrome"

@cygnathreadbare

Your avatar is perfect for this conversation 🤣

@ruedi @codepo8

@PeterLG @cygnathreadbare @codepo8
Just saw that. Excellent 😁

Reminds me of starting a Netscape download in the evening to have it finished in the morning. That was in the olden days with modems and smoke signals of course. 🖥️📟😅

@codepo8 I see a lack of "Fancy Chrome" (Vivaldi)

@sotolf

Or "Viking Chrome" :-)

(headquarter in Oslo, Norway)

@codepo8

@codepo8 notably
Arc

"Tivo Chrome".

Another browser that could've been an extension.

@codepo8 Missing safari in that picture.
@mikeTesteLinux @codepo8 Which is the only other instance of “not Chrome” out there.
@codepo8 @Ckln seeing the latest news about Firefox, this image might soon be incorrect.

@codepo8

Vivaldi: Chrome that would like to be the non Chinese Opera.

@codepo8
I think that's "Chrome's money" on the top right.
@codepo8 ….i didn’t know opera was Chinese
@codepo8 so we need "open source not chrome", "crypto not chrome", "chinese not chrome" and "microsoft not chrome"?
@codepo8 how would you caption Safari?
@codepo8 I completely forgot Opera is Chinese now
@codepo8 @grifferz Why opera is Chinese? I thought it was Norwegian.
@alarig @grifferz It was, it got sold to a Chinese consortium in 2016!
https://robots.net/tech/who-owns-opera-browser/
Who Owns Opera Browser | Robots.net

Discover who owns the popular Opera browser and gain insight into its ownership structure, acquisitions, and the impact on its development and user experience.

Robots.net
@codepo8 Missing Konqueror (whose KHTML component is where it all started) and of course Safari. Google just stole from the real open source browser project.