Rights don't give you power. People with power claim rights. Giving a "right" to someone powerless just transfers it to someone more powerful than them. Nowhere is this more visible than in copyright fights, where creative workers are given new rights that are immediately hoovered up by their bosses.

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Pluralistic: Harpercollins wants authors to sign away AI training rights (18 Nov 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

It's not clear whether copyright gives *anyone* the right to control whether their work is used to train an AI model. It's very common for people (including high ranking officials in entertainment companies, *and* practicing lawyers who don't practice IP law) to overestimate their understanding of copyright in general, and their knowledge of fair use in *particular*.

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Here's a hint: any time someone says "X can *never* be fair use," they are wrong and don't know what they're talking about (same goes for "X is *always* fair use"). Likewise, anyone who says, "Fair use is assessed solely by considering the 'four factors.'" That is your iron-clad sign that the speaker does not understand fair use:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/06/27/nuke-first/#ask-questions-never

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Pluralistic: Copyright takedowns are a cautionary tale that few are heeding (27 Jun 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

But let's say for the sake of argument that training a model on someone's work is a copyright violation, and so training is a licensable activity, and AI companies must get permission from rightsholders before they use their copyrighted works to train a model.

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Even if that's not how copyright works today, it's how things *could* work. No one came down off a mountain with two stone tablets bearing the text of 17 USC chiseled in very, very tiny writing. We totally overhauled copyright in 1976, and again in 1998. There've been several smaller alterations since.

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We could easily write a new law that requires licensing for AI training, and it's not hard to imagine that happening, given the current confluence of interests among creative workers (who are worried about AI pitchmen's proclaimed intention to destroy their livelihoods) and entertainment companies (who are suing many AI companies).

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Creative workers are an essential element of that coalition. Without workers as moral standard-bearers, it's hard to imagine the cause getting traction. No one seriously believes entertainment execs like Warner CEO David Zaslav actually cares about creative works - this is a guy who happily deletes every copy of an unreleased major film that had superb early notices because it would be worth infinitesimally more as a tax-break than as a work of art:

https://collider.com/coyote-vs-acme-david-zaslav-never-seen/

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'Coyote vs. Acme Was Cancelled Before Anyone Even Saw It

According to sources, Warner Bros. executives didn't even watch Coyote vs. Acme before deciding to pull the film and get rid of it forever.

Collider

The activists in this coalition commonly call it "anti AI." But is it? Does David Zaslav - or any of the entertainment execs who are suing AI companies - want to prevent gen AI models from being used in the production of their products? No way - these guys *love* AI. Zaslav and his fellow movie execs held out against screenwriters demanding control over AI in the writers' room for *148 days*, and locked out their actors for another 118 days over the use of AI to replace actors.

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Studio execs forfeited at least $5 billion in a bid to insist on their right to use AI against workers:

https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2023/12/06/a-deep-dive-into-the-economic-ripples-of-the-hollywood-strike/

Entertainment businesses *love* the idea of replacing their workers with AI. Now, that doesn't mean that AI *can* replace workers: just because your boss can be sold an AI to do your job, it doesn't mean that the AI he buys can actually do your job:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/07/25/accountability-sinks/#work-harder-not-smarter

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A Deep Dive into the Economic Ripples of the Hollywood Strike – Michigan Journal of Economics

So if we get the right to refuse to allow our work to be used to train a model, the "anti AI" coalition will fracture. Workers will (broadly) want to exercise that right to prevent AI models from being trained at all, while our bosses will want to exercise that right to be sure that they're paid for AI training, and that they can steer production of the resulting model to maximize the number of workers than can fire after it's done.

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Hypothetically, creative workers could simply say to our bosses, "We will not sell you this right to authorize or refuse AI training that Congress just gave us." But our bosses will then say, "Fine, you're fired. We won't hire you for this movie, or record your album, or publish your book."

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Given that there are only five major publishers, four major studios, three major labels, two ad-tech companies and one company that controls the whole ebook and audiobook market, a refusal to deal on the part of a small handful of firms effectively dooms you to obscurity.

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As Rebecca Giblin and I write in our 2022 book *Chokepoint Capitalism*, giving more rights to a creative worker who has no bargaining power is like giving your bullied schoolkid more lunch money. No matter how much lunch money you give that kid, the bullies will take it and your kid will remain hungry. To get your kid lunch, you have to clear the bullies away from the gate. You need to make a structural change:

https://chokepointcapitalism.com/

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a book about why creative labor markets are rigged - and how to unrig them Competition is supposed to be fundamental to capitalism. Over the last four decades though, greedy robber barons have worked out how to lock in customers and suppliers, eliminate competitors, and shake down everyone for more than their fair share. This…

Or, put another way: people with power can claim rights. But giving powerless people more rights doesn't make them powerful - it just transfers those rights to the people they bargain against.

Or, put a third way: "just because you're on their side, it doesn't follow that they're on your side" (h/t Teresa Nielsen Hayden):

https://pluralistic.net/2024/10/19/gander-sauce/#just-because-youre-on-their-side-it-doesnt-mean-theyre-on-your-side

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Pluralistic: Penguin Random House, AI, and writers’ rights (19 Oct 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

Last month, Penguin Random House, the largest publisher in the history of human civilization, started including a copyright notice in its books advising all comers that they would not permit AI training with the material between the covers:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/10/19/gander-sauce/#just-because-youre-on-their-side-it-doesnt-mean-theyre-on-your-side

At the time, people who don't like AI were very excited about this, even though it was - at the utmost - a purely theatrical gesture.

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Pluralistic: Penguin Random House, AI, and writers’ rights (19 Oct 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

After all, if AI training *isn't* fair use, then you don't need a notice to turn it into a copyright infringement. If AI training *is* fair use, it remains fair use even if you add some text to the copyright notice.

But far more important was the fact that the less that Penguin Random House pays its authors, the more it can pay its shareholders and executives.

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PRH didn't say it wouldn't *sell* the right to train a model to an AI company - they only said that an AI company that wanted to train a model on its books would have to pay PRH first. In other words, just because you're on their side, it doesn't follow that they're on your side.

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When I wrote about PRH and its AI warning, I mentioned that I had personally seen one of the big five publishers hold up a book because a creator demanded a clause in their contract saying their work wouldn't be used to train an AI.

There's a good reason you'd want this in your contract; the standard contracting language contains bizarrely overreaching language seeking "rights in all media now know and yet to be devised throughout the universe":

https://pluralistic.net/2022/06/19/reasonable-agreement/

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Reasonable Agreement – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

But the publisher flat-out refused, and the creator fought and fought, and in the end, it became clear that this was a take-it-or-leave-it situation: the publisher would *not* include a "no AI training" clause in the contract.

One of the big five publishers is Rupert Murdoch's Harpercollins. Murdoch is famously of the opinion that any kind of indexing or archiving of the work he publishes *must* require a license.

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He even demanded to be paid to have his newspapers indexed by search engines:

https://www.inquisitr.com/46786/epic-win-news-corp-likely-to-remove-content-from-google

No surprise that Murdoch sued an AI company over training on Newscorp content:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/25/unjust-threat-murdoch-and-artists-align-in-fight-over-ai-content-scraping

But Murdoch isn't opposed to the material he publishes being used in AI training, nor is he opposed to the use of models. Murdoch's Harpercollins is now pressuring its authors to sign away their rights to have their work used to train AI models:

https://bsky.app/profile/kibblesmith.com/post/3laz4ryav3k2w

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Epic Win: News Corp Likely To Remove Content From Google

News Corp founder and CEO Rupert Murdoch has told an interview with Sky News Australia that News Corp will likely remove News Corp content from Google. The revelation came early in the interview, after Murdoch claimed that Google and others are stealing News Corp content in response to a question about who he was talking […]

THE INQUISITR

The deal is not negotiable, and the email demanding that authors opt into it warns that AI might make writers obsolete (remember, even if AI can't do your job, an AI salesman can convince Rupert Murdoch - who is insatiably horny for not paying writers - that an AI is capable of doing your job):

https://www.avclub.com/harpercollins-selling-books-to-ai-language-training

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HarperCollins is asking authors to sell their books to the A.I. woodchipper

HarperCollins is asking authors to sell their books to the A.I. woodchipper

AV Club

And it's not hard to see why an AI company might want this; after all, if they can lock in an exclusive deal to train a model on Harpercollins' back catalog, their products will exclusively enjoy whatever advantage is to be had in that corpus.

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In just a month, we've gone from "publishers won't promise not to train a model on your work" to "publishers are letting an AI company train a model on your work, but will pay you a nonnegotiable pittance for your work." The next step is likely to be, "publishers require you to sign away the right to train a model on your work."

The right to decide who can train a model on your work does you no good unless it comes with the *power* to exercise that right.

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@pluralistic "The power to exercise your rights" is an increasingly relevant concept in general. See also the crackdown in the US against protesters the government doesn't like.
@pteryx @pluralistic Any right you lack the ability to exercise is a right which you do not in fact have.
@EndemicEarthling @pteryx @pluralistic like having an #AMFM radio on your cell phone. No one can look me with a straight face and claim that a chip that can demodulate/modulate #CDMA/#TDMA etc. can't demodulate analog signals and give you a nice display to manage them. I remember this "debate" in the '90s.
@wb2ifs @EndemicEarthling @pteryx @pluralistic There are legitimate technical reasons there WRT mixer tuning ranges etc. Something meant to run at carriers in the 1-2 GHz region might well have trouble tuning down to 100 MHz - much less 1 MHz for AM - without that being an explicit design requirement (perhaps involving extra hardware to bypass a mixer etc)
@azonenberg @EndemicEarthling @pteryx @pluralistic Hmmm. This article is interesting. "The FCC urged Apple to enable the FM chips in their phones in 2017, but Apple responded with a claim that their latest phones don't have #FM chips." https://www.lifewire.com/use-fm-radio-on-smartphone-4176272
How to Listen to FM Radio on Your Phone Without Using Data

You can listen to FM radio on a phone without an active data connection, but only if your phone has an activated FM chip, and only with the right app.

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@azonenberg @EndemicEarthling @pteryx @pluralistic once again, we can't have nice things because someone has to make a profit. Make sure there's an #AMFM radio in your #gokit.