An excerpt from "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45", an interview with a German after WWII on why they didn't rise up against the regime due to incrementalism.

“Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.”

And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free

#USpol #USpolitics

They Thought They Were Free - Wikipedia

@GuyDudeman This.

Every eroding of humanity, every roll back of civil liberties, every reduction in protection for one group or another.. THIS is why we must stand up and go "no".

@GuyDudeman I need to find that thread from 2016 about the incremental march into nazism...

@GuyDudeman I distinctly recall some reporter going out asking Trump supporters if Firing Comey would be the thing that turned them against his presidency. The vast majority said it would.

That's how far we've come since then.

@GuyDudeman @interfluidity “the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms”

Culture matters. I have long thought the use of torture after 9/11 was a test for American culture.

@jgordon @GuyDudeman @interfluidity I haven't forgiven Obama for not pursuing that.
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Tragically, many Jewish Germans made the same mistake, thinking/hoping each tightening of the noose of persecution was the last, until it was too late...
@GuyDudeman thanks for reminding. I-know this fragment, but always good to re-read.
@GuyDudeman The chapter "The Heat Wave" in the middle of that book is one of my all-time favorite reads.
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Actually they did rise up. German internal resistance is not well known but was bigger than French resistance for instance, which is widely described
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism
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German resistance to Nazism - Wikipedia

@jaj @boulesdefourrure And even so, it didn’t stop it.
@GuyDudeman And that is why antifascism needs to be an everyday act, a concious act, an active act. Don't be silent! Call out the atrocities! Call out the haters!

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This is such a good article, I made the reference link one of my featured posts,.

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This is our moment. Who will be brave? Maybe older people like me who know the way things used to be when the idea of Trump being president was impossible. Maybe older people like me who have less to lose, being nearer to the end of our lives. Maybe older people like me who protested the war in Vietnam and protested the second Iraq war (WMDs!) even before the invasion.

@Dave_Goldsmith Let’s make “Thanks, Boomer!” earnest again!
@GuyDudeman Heartbreaking. And here we are. We can still say something.
@GuyDudeman The fear of uncertainty, in preference for the certainty of despair and the status quo, is a major theme of Rebecca Solnit's 2016 book "Hope in the Dark".
@GuyDudeman I think about They Thought They Were Free constantly. Especially the passages about shrugging shoulders, low conversations about missing people, and keeping an even lower profile. #fascism #Trump
@GuyDudeman So, which one is the worst : nuclear Holocaust or death due to climate changes ?
Rosenstrasse protest - Wikipedia

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>The protest by the women of the Rosenstrasse led to the release of approximately 1,800 Berlin Jews.

>Elsa Holzer, a protesting wife, later stated in an interview: "We expected that our husbands would return home and that they wouldn't be sent to the camps. We acted from the heart, and look what happened. If you had to calculate whether you would do any good by protesting, you wouldn't have gone. But we acted from the heart. We wanted to show that we weren't willing to let them go. What one is capable of doing when there is danger can never be repeated. I'm not a fighter by nature. Only when I have to be. I did what was given me to do. When my husband need my protection, I protected him ... And there was always a flood of people there. It wasn't organized or instigated. Everyone was simply there. Exactly like me. That's what is so wonderful about it."

Wow, well done! I had not heard of this.

I was just assuming that any protest would have been put down and not capitulated to, on the grounds of "that's woke" (or whatever the parlance of their times was for that).