Linux-on-mobile folks: I hope you’re paying attention to the new Linux VM stuff in Android 15.
I genuinely think one of the most important approaches to building the Linux mobile ecosystem is to enable people to get (and fall in love with!) our app ecosystem on the phone *and OS* they already use.
It’s critical to build the whole experience (like we see with GNOME and PostmarketOS), but we need to meet people where they are, first.
#Linux #Android #LinuxMobile #OpenSource #GNOME #postmarketOS
@cassidy #GTK apps are leagues better of an experience than their counterpart Android apps. The only exception is maybe #Moshidon
Would be nice if #Android peeps could discover the glory of our ecosystem.
However, I still maintain that the biggest advantage of #MobileLinux is avoiding Google's OS builtin spyware and data exfiltration. Ditching the OS is paramount. Discovering GTK apps is a great way to help get there.
@Lehmanator @cassidy Strongly disagree on the 'experience' comparing GTK to Android apps. It heavily matters on the apps you use, and is completely subjective.
See: my experience. GTK apps seem much simpler or less complex than Qt apps, for example. GNOME Calendar? It can only read from my WebDAV (Radicale v3), while Google Calendar on my phone can R/W, same for Google Contacts. GNOME's Contacts didn't even support importing or syncing WebDAV, telling me to do it through GNOME Software. GNOME(org) apps in particular are quite basic and lacking in general.
What about video editing? Pitivi is great for simple-ish stuff, but Kdenlive is where it's at when it comes to the 'heavy' stuff.
Maps? Organic Maps, Google Maps, any Android map app has more features than GNOME Maps.
DataBackup, App Manager, Google Translate, the Google app itself with Lens, Assistant and Gemini support/integrations, to name a few, are still strongly above any Linux-based apps that do the same thing, way above GTK-based apps as well.
@alextecplayz @cassidy hmm I suppose I see your point.
I think all those GNOME apps sync properly with my #Nextcloud account (cant test rn because I need to fix a borked upgrade), which is common to GNOME Online Accounts, do you login to #Radicale w/ GOA or in the apps themselves?
GNOME apps are def barebones. My comparison is mostly to #FOSS #Android apps, as I haven't used Google's apps since ~2019.
@Lehmanator @cassidy Well, if you haven't used Google's apps since 2019, you're in for a surprise.
Google Photos is pretty much excellent when it comes to photo editing, it even has some AI features (they're expectedly half-arsed, 'AI' after all isn't there yet). Google Assistant was thrown to the curb in favour of Gemini which has integrations with most big Google apps like YouTube, Maps, Gmail, Flights.
As for WebDAV, I've added the account through GNOME Software, then installed GNOME Contacts and tried to sync my contacts. Calendar could only read the calendar, but not edit it, massively disappointing.
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