Randahl Fink“The world is made up of herbivores and carnivores. If we decide to remain herbivores, the carnivores win.”
— French President Emmanuel Macron after the US reelection of Donald Trump, November 7, 2024.
Craig P@randahl Yeah, let's be weasels instead of those tiny, cowardly, weak herbivores like elephants, horses, bulls, stegosauruses...
Mnemosina@Mnemosinee Are you parking weasels there?
The point is, people think of carnivores as big and in charge, but in reality they're usually opportunists and bullies.
@Craigp No, Craig, the point is we need to prevent another Bucha in Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania. Can we please focus on arming ourselves against Russian imperialism and occupation instead of worrying about micro aggressions to stegosaurus?
@Mnemosinee but herbivores have better weapons and are better armed. Carnivores are just murderous, idealizing them is a bad sign.
skua@Mnemosinee @Craigp
You seem to think that ignoring the OP is the best way forward.
I see that later on in this thread you've presented good reasons to do that.
@skua This week I'm really sensitive to any signs of some politician going right-wing bully-boy fascist, for obvious reasons.
@Craigp
I think your response to the OP was reasonable.
That quote in the OP was very troubling.
@skua @Craigp I can't even imagine how troubling it must be to be a Ukrainian who maybe had 3 hours of sleep last night between raid alarms and counting the dead in Odessa and Kharkiv, knowing sufficient aid to defend yourself isn't coming, then logging in to Mastodon to read that what we really need in debates about EU defence is a sensitivity read. I'm deeply embarrassed for all of us and hope no Ukrainian has wandered in here.
@Mnemosinee when a politician tells you they want to kill and eat people, believe them.
@Craigp Where, Craig? Where did he say that? Can you drag the cursor to 10:57, start listening and point us to the timestamp?
https://www.youtube.com/live/LDfOTub2MLc?feature=shared
(See, this is where twitter is missed, you'd be getting flooded by Spanish guys offering themselves as a snack to him by now, instead of having to do basic media literacy...)
L’intervention du Président Emmanuel Macron au Sommet de la Communauté politique européenne.
@Mnemosinee You have fun with him, then. Hope it turns out better for you than everyone else that's ignored flagrant right-wing propaganda.
@Craigp Which you've constructed in your can't-even-read-the-original-language head out of a headline in Mathias Döpfner's rag. 👏
@Mnemosinee I honestly hope you believe in him not going far-right fascist. And obviously I hope he doesn't.
@Craigp Yeah, I've heard that one before about Azov and Zelensky and Ukrainians, much wringing of hands based on Kremlin propaganda about fascists, which in the Russian definition=anyone not Russian. You have all the information now, from the source, good luck with improving media literacy.
@Mnemosinee HAHAHAH, nevermind, you're a troll. Goodbye.
@Mnemosinee
I know from personal experience that communicating on a topic I have some knowledge and understanding in when others have only a misleading and out of context snapshot to go on is difficult.
And that's without folk dieing around me.
Good luck.