My Twitter account is currently locked and I don't look at it, but I'm hard deleting it this month. If you have a Twitter account you don't read, I also recommend full deletion before Nov. 15. Here's why.
Twitter has their TOS now in an unusual state https://x.com/en/tos with two copies of the TOS printed one after the other, with a notice the new TOS goes active November 15.
The major difference I see is starting Nov 15 they give themselves explicit rights to train AI models on your posts.
Concerningly, the wording of the new TOS implies they can / intend to do AI training even on accounts marked "private". The TOS says they will respect your choice to "limit distribution… to a restricted community"— but only in the EU version, and per my read (I am not a lawyer) this applies only to "mak[ing] content available", not training. I could be wrong on this point, but I am choosing not to take the risk.
If you have sensitive content on a private Twitter account, think about this hard.
UPDATE:
After the thread above, I spoke to a number of people who said "well, instead of deleting my Twitter account I'll just mass-delete the posts".
I have spoken today to two separate people who wiped their Twitter accounts via tools like Redact, & today found the posts un-deleted without their permission. In one case tens of thousands of posts were un-deleted.
If you've previously deleted Twitter posts, I recommend verifying they're still gone. And also, I recommend deleting your account.
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Something else pointed out re: the new tos is that all disputes are to be handled by a judge in a single judge district in North Texas who has a whole ton of Tesla stock, and this far a pretty heavy tendency to go with whatever musk wants.
This is not a location that has anything to do with twitter or Tesla outside of that.
I don't think this is relevant to your situation, but seemed worth sharing.
As reported here:
The problem of warning about a failure of the system that warns is similarly amusing.
@mcc ugh, I just tried logging on for the first time in two years to delete my account - apparently I had 2fa set up with some authenticator linked to a phone I no longer have.
Saved codes? Nope. Sigh.
I really don't want to deal with "support" on this
@mcc @dngrs It's what's been reported across multiple tech outlets that I've seen reporting on this, eg: https://tech.co/news/musk-sneaks-in-x-ai-training-clauseand-no-you-cant-opt-out
EDIT: Note, I don'tk now if tech.co is legit, it's just the first example I saw when I went to grab a link saying this. I'm simply using it as an example of such reporting.
@mcc @dngrs thing is, unfortunate I don't think that line of thinking necessarily works in this instance, because the only possible source can be the twitter TOS, which then becomes an interpretation thing, which then becomes a "test in court" thing. And that's probably all by design. My inclination would probably be to at least consider the worst-case interpretations in this case.
I saw people citing lawyers when reading about this, but again, that's an interpretation until it goes to court.
Hey thanks for this! I was wondering if there was a way to mass-delete tweets.
The only reason I haven’t deleted my Twitter account is so that some rando Nazi doesn’t co-opt my artist name. It’s set to private, but if privacy is losing a lot of its protections it’s time to nuke all my tweets, too.
@cloudfruit @mcc I do. Training data on posts doesn't just affect the person whose data is being trained with. What if you posted incorrect info? What if you hold disgusting views? That shit gets fed into the torment nexus machine and destroys the internet. It's not just about YOUR data being trained. Training AI on twitter is going to have a disgusting ripple effect on what "truth" is. It's going to obfuscate so much crap.
Twitter has to be one of the worst sources to train with. Awful.
@mcc if what has happen does not help that wont help either.
Tumblr started doing ai shit and people is still quite active there
@mcc I'm going to keep my account open because I don't want some scammer registering my handle on there so the "@dmarti" links go to a shitcoin or whatever
(but all I'm posting these days is "how do I get support for MetaMask" to see how the bot scene is developing. They're still pretty basic, not even LLM backed as far as I can tell)
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