After yesterday’s DS5 used by François Hollande, here’s a car that corresponds much more closely to most people’s notion of a presidential Citroën. This 1968 DS-based limousine by Chapron was commissioned under Charles de Gaulle but mainly used by his successor Georges Pompidou. Photo from a visit to Citroën’s Conservatoire in 2012.

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Used 1969 Citroen DS 21 Berline Chapron 'Majesty' for sale | DD Classics

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They've got an SM which I don't normally like the look of but it's in a really nice blue.

https://www.ddclassics.com/used/cars/citroen/sm/automatic-3-litre-261

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@serichards @craigmorgan @davidwilkins I have a sort of love/hate of the SM.

I love the hydropneumatic self-leveling suspension, the Diravi steering with “monobranche” wheel, the oval dashboard instrumentation, the brake “mushroom” pedal, the fact that it is a big 2 door GT tourer, the enclosed front lights with corner illumination.

The overall shape I find somewhat underwhelming, and as a Citroën enthusiast, this is very troubling.

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@ZeKik @serichards @craigmorgan @davidwilkins The profile view is my favorite. The rear looks awkward. I enjoyed owning one for 20yrs, but don’t miss it now. The people who know how to maintain and fix it are literally dying out, that’s one big reason I was done with it.

@adrianco @ZeKik @serichards @davidwilkins makes perfect sense, there's still one or two specialists here in UK. I think sadly this is the fate of many of the more niche specialists, lack of new "apprenticed" workers/owners and small volumes are the death-knell for many, only the larger volume (ie. Porsche/Jaguar) or higher value (Ferrari/Lamb. etc) attract investment.

Lets celebrate and support the odd-ball specialists that are solo keeping some of the greatest old metal operational …

@craigmorgan @adrianco @serichards @davidwilkins probably varies by country. In France, they could be around for a while yet.

OEM manufacturer restomod is also becoming a bit of a thing, which might spread to other marques. The restored cars are very expensive though.

@ZeKik @adrianco @serichards @davidwilkins agreed, JLR Classic is a perfect example for instance
@craigmorgan @ZeKik @serichards @davidwilkins The technology in old Citroens is the problem. It’s unique and takes a while to learn. Lon Price in Santa Cruz complained that he kept trying to get an apprentice who would learn from him but they didn’t stick around. Most old cars are remixes of the same basic ingredients but mechanics have no clue about LHM based hydraulics.

@adrianco @craigmorgan @serichards @davidwilkins Lon Price should find a young French mechanic who would love to immigrate to the 🇺🇸!

In the 🇺🇸, it certainly seems difficult to own a Citroën or a Peugeot.

It’s also hard for 🇺🇸 enthusiasts to understand the cars. They are never particularly powerful or fast, because the French registration tax has always discouraged those (the infamous “chevaux fiscaux” or “tax horsepower”, hence the 2CV).

@adrianco @craigmorgan @serichards @davidwilkins Iconic French cars are never about breakneck acceleration or stratospheric top speeds. It has changed a bit in recent decades — V6 engines are more common than they once were, mostly thanks to turbocharged diesel engines, but also because there is no annual registration fee anymore. I can’t even think of a single French built V8.
@ZeKik @craigmorgan @serichards @davidwilkins The SM was one of the fastest cars of its time. But in general you’re right. Technically the Maserati Bora was a French owned V8 for a while…

@adrianco @craigmorgan @serichards @davidwilkins I sort of forgot that the Bugatti Veyron and Chiron are French owned W16’s built in Alsace.

Bugatti itself is still French AFAIK, although I would expect they don’t even sell half a dozen cars in the country per year.

Owned by parent company VAG until recently. Now a subsidiary of Porsche 🇩🇪 and Rimac of Croatia 🇭🇷.