CringePoopOct 10, 2024
Steve Troughton-Smith

‘Where are all the Vision Pro apps?’ begins and ends with Apple. Is this a computer, or is it a fancy Apple TV for rich people? Where is Pages and Numbers? Swift Playgrounds? Final Cut, Logic? iMovie? Native ports of Maps? Reminders? Calendar? Podcasts? Books? Most of these were glaring omissions /at launch/, but we’re fast approaching a year on (and we're well over a year since announcement) and there’s just been nothing.

This absolutely feels like Windows Phone/Windows 8 all over again

Oct 10, 2024 at 4:28pmIvory for Mac
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithOct 10, 2024
“It'll get better later” is not a strategy, because developers and users will have long made up their mind before then. Once that bozo bit flips…
Show threadTobiasOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith it’s already flipped
Show threadFrank ReiffOct 11, 2024

@stroughtonsmith That was my point before launch: you only get one shot at making a first impression.

The iPhone brought the house down.

Game console makers know this. That is why they spend a decade making sure that the launch software catalog has at least one absolute must have game.

Apple just do their thing in secret, then they say “Yo, shiny”!

Then they sell it at twice their cost to mega fans and developers and expect them to figure out what the killer app is.. in a straight jacket.

Show threadErnesto MonasterioOct 10, 2024

@stroughtonsmith At least Microsoft developed first party apps for Windows Phone fast. They even attempted to develop some third party ones themselves, like YouTube, until Google decided to block that.

Apple doesn’t seem to care.

Show threadJoris TimmermanOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith “a fancy Apple TV for rich people” is the most accurate description I’ve heard for the AVP.
Show threadNico ReeseOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith It's definitely crazy that we did not get a *single* new app since launch. Makes me very afraid that they will tout visionOS 3 with just one new native app and call it a day. After all we're living in an era where not even Journal is on iPad yet. visionOS might get a calculator app by 2040.
Show threadsharpstickOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith I would love to go out and buy a Vision Pro. If there were even a bit more actual computing apps or movement in that direction I would be able to justify it to myself. The Apple Store demo blew me away, but I want it to be what it says on the tin, a spatial computer.
Show threadFabian PimmingerOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith at least Microsoft tried. Even sponsored development of selected third party apps
Show threadChancerubbageOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith it seems they are waiting for a third party app explosion that just isn’t going to happen, for very obvious chicken/egg reasons.
Show threadDominic HoptonOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith feels like HoloLens all over again….
Show threadTom Klaver Oct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith Thought 1: wow, that's almost a full month since I last thought about Vision Pro.
Thought 2: They even have browser versions of 6 of those. Extremely weird omissions to not have on a device that expensive.
Show threadBye Oct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith thank god we have Encounter Dinosaurs
Show threadspsisysOct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith 100%
Show threadLeonOct 10, 2024

@stroughtonsmith it’s a very impressive prototype that doesn’t make any sense as a product. More logically would be two separate products:

AirPod Frames
Don’t miss a moment again.
Meta Ray-Bans but with a second camera and Apple styling and privacy, titanium, tons of fitment options and Zeis optics, maybe something like interchangeable ear stalks like watch bands, Find My. Frames is an insanely good name for camera glasses that I’m shocked it isn’t already being used.

Apple Vision Display
Make every computer a spatial computer.
It plugs in to a Mac with a certain baseline M chip and acts as a Mac display you can wear. No battery, no full processor, much cheaper and lighter, fits into existing ecosystem. Some spatial goodies in macOS help sweeten it a little.

Show threadAnnoyingRainsOct 12, 2024

@leon @stroughtonsmith
> Frames is an insanely good name for camera glasses that I’m shocked it isn’t already being used.

The issue with this comes as soon as anyone who needs a prescription touches it, the frames have glass in them, making them not frames! How do you sell the empty-frame versions? The "Apple Frames, Frames" ?????

Then again, that didn't stop Nintendo selling "New Super Mario Bros", second-hand markets just got more confusing.... "New Super Mario Bros, used"

Show threadNova🐧✨Oct 10, 2024
@stroughtonsmith there's tons of vision pro apps! they're just all shovelware with like 5 hidden gems like Wisp by Liquid City (started by one of the coolest XR designers) and ALVR and so on, but the APIs simply do not let you make most compelling app ideas you could think of, there's always unnecessary compromise in some manner like everything in shared space being bounded.
Show threadDavid JensenOct 11, 2024
@stroughtonsmith I've had a lot of fun with Google Earth VR for PC.
A fully 3D Maps app for AVP just seems like a no-brainer to me. They already have a ton of 3D maps and photospheres, all they need to do is make the app.
Show threadTheEJJ 🇨🇦Oct 11, 2024
@stroughtonsmith During my demo I tried to use Numbers, and I immediately realized that wouldn’t be able to do work with this thing in the current state.