mccNeed to rip a CD so I can actually listen to it. Not actually sure how to do this in the year 2024. Find myself downloading… iTunes? For Windows 10?
FUCK i tried to download all the music i bought on itunes in 2007 and accidentally downloaded some fucking U2 album. There's no button to un-download it. Gonna have to submerge the hard drive in lye
I started moving away from Apple so long ago that I forgot you have to watch out for them trying to trick you into listening to U2
M… maybe… maybe I'll just leave that Cee-Lo Green album in the cloud :(
I believe I have now successfully exfiltrated all of my 2007 iTunes purchases to where I can listen to them. I am at 50% of my expected level of Kool Keith albums so I am trying to go on Amazon Music and see what I purchased there. Clicking through to music from the Amazon content menu, I find Amazon Music is now *only* a streaming service. They REFUSED to let me in unless I picked three artists I liked to feed Algorithm and then the albums weren't there anyway. (I picked Oval, Autechre, Boris.)
Amazon!! Amazon please!! I wish to Manage my Content and Devices!!
Downloaded the Amazon Music app for PC. This was deftly hidden, Amazon's own site links only a web player and if you click "Download App" it gives you a QR code. For your phone I guess. I had to go to the Windows Store.
Although Amazon's help pages claim the PC app can download purchases, I still show no purchased music. I think this is because every time I log in on the US store the app redirects me to Canada. Yes, I am in Canada right now. But I was in the US in 2007. When I bought the music?
Also it turns out all the iTunes tracks I downloaded were m4p. Which means they can't be used outside of iTunes. Which I don't use. At some point Apple switched to DRM-free, but all the instructions on how to switch your library to DRM-free no longer make sense (refer to webpages that no longer exist, etc) because Apple is trying to aggressively deprecate "owning things" in favor of some subscription service
UPDATE: Wait, the U2 album Apple tricked me into downloading *is* DRM-free. So I could put that on the plex if that was something I wanted. I guess.
I was a fool to believe a company from the "world's ten largest companies" list would allow me to access a product I paid for
Alright so here's the least useful advice you're gonna get today. It is possible to "sync" an Amazon Music USA to an Amazon Music Canada account (and one assumes other combinations of countries as well). The way to do this is to speak to a human customer service representative¹ and request it. Then it takes 48 hours. I'll let you know in 48 hours if it worked or not.
¹ In order to speak to a human Amazon representative, you must: Solve the nefarious labyrinth of Dr. B
Update: You don't have to reply to me feeling sad because you like U2 and I'm complaining about U2!! I don't mind U2!! I'm listening to U2 right now!!!
nini@mcc whoa
(i gotta listen to more U2! i only know Joshua Tree and the song Sunday Bloody Sunday)
@filenine i find about 1/3 of U2's music great and the other 2/3 kinda annoys me.
The songs by them I like are "New Years Day" and "Mysterious ways", and the tracks from the "Pop" era (from which the Sinead O Connor collaboration comes, they did some soundtracks).
@mcc ...oh huh they had an album literally called "Pop". wild
New Year's Day is on the album War alongside Sunday Bloody Sunday, so i'll check it out! thanks
(and i suppose Achtung Baby is an album that exists too)
@filenine i have heard from several sources that the album "Achtung Baby" exists. this is all i know about it
polographer@mcc @filenine I found your thread seconds after posting this https://mastodon.social/@polographer/113263769046975511
Babble Ghoti 🐡@mcc I want to get off Mr Bezos’s Wild Ride
EndlessMason@mcc You absolute rube!
Mason Loring Bliss@mcc I only buy CDs, here, with one notable recent exception where Shriekback didn't have a CD for a new album. They sold it as an archive of .wav files. I was surprised they didn't use FLAC but it was easy to convert. I offset the carbon cost a little by buying used CDs, and I'll get them locally where I can. If I have to resort to eBay, I'll prioritize shipping distance over price, and it's usually only a few cents difference.
Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊...
Wait, is iTunes still doing that U2 thing? That was a thing when the damned service first launched, it was a matter of some significant derision, what was that, 17 years ago?
You could grab an old copy of WinAmp. Entirely Bono-free, and I hear it still whips the llama's ass. (WACUP would be suggested, but there's presently no ripping plugin for it.)
Ongion 🥚🐞@mcc I think the simplest way to get around that is by burning them to a CD? But that might be a lossy conversion, and it requires you to uh... still have a CD drive, and CDs.
EDIT: it occurs to me that I don't actually know if iTunes lets you burn CDs anymore. I can't imagine them removing that, but I can't imagine a lot of things Apple has already done in the decade-and-a-half since I last used iTunes. I certainly remember having done this. If it doesn't work anymore, sorry.
@Ongion i have an external usb drive but i don' tthink it can burn cds…
@mcc darn.
... Wait, is there software out there that like... emulates a virtual writable CD, but actually just burns to an ISO file? If it presents itself to the OS as a CD-R / CD-RW, maybe iTunes could use that ...?
gamedev.lgbt/@psilocervine@mcc iirc, the only way to do it is to download an ancient version of itunes that supports doing that natively, which is really only an option on windows
Marcos Huerta@mcc when they debuted “iTunes plus” which was DRM free, they had an option to upgrade old songs for $.30 each. But it looks the upgrade option went away in 2012.
XaiaX ̆̈@marcoshuerta @mcc i think they just converted anything you had purchased into that, then. I never paid for upgrades and last I checked I get the DRM free higher bitrate versions of those tracks.
On a mac IIRC anything you purchased can be downloaded to local storage and then you just go to the folder on the local disk and copy the files from there.
Stuff that you only have access to via subscription is stored separately.
Troed Sångberg@mcc Didn't "dvd-jon" solve that m4p decryption .. I believe so. If you still have the computer/installation you bought them on it should be doable. But this is 20 year old stuff so what the modern equivalent to DeDRMS and FairKeys is I have no idea :/
Tim Panton@mcc I have a vague memory that there was an obscure setting in iTunes that allowed you to set the format for downloads, I have no idea where it is in the modern version - I do remember thinking it was well hidden and miss-labeled (export?burn?) - any how I set it to AAC and good things happened.
@mcc 'advanced' or 'devices' perhaps ? I really don't recall - and I was on a Mac so it looks different anyhow.
Toby Haynes
ms22@mcc Apologies if you’ve already considered this route - Depending on how much music is involved *and whether the songs are still available in iTunes store*, it might be worth paying for iTunes Match to get drm free versions. I know it’s paying for things you already own. I was trying to figure out if I wanted iTunes Match or Apple Music Match which should be the same and eventually just gave up. I don’t trust apple to not mess up my existing files. Good luck!
dragonfrog@mcc what if you used a VPN to appear from a US IP?
Cat!@mcc The Amazon app can (or at least could, last I checked) make purchases. Except it can't. If you can even find the purchase option, it opens the purchasing page in a browser. Even though you can't make purchases from the web "store."
I like the idea of feeding Amazon's little autopicker a selection of artists it has absolutely no chance of having in its system.
What's that, Amazon? You've never heard of Pugilism and the Third Autistic Cuckoo? Well, I fail to see how that's my problem: the hot potato's in your hands now.
@theogrin i clicked "electronic" in their genre picker and they were like "oh! electronic music! you mean like rihanna and whitney houston!". Listen. I like Rihanna. But.
Michael@mcc yep, I went through all of this earlier this year when I was putting together my Plex server and oof. Also learned tbe hard way that artists can just easily delist things from Bandcamp and I can’t download or listen to them anymore except through the app.
Will T@mcc It's extremely well hidden but if you search for an album from the normal Amazon shopping site, you can click through to a version of Amazon music with a button to buy it.
There's also https://music.amazon.co.uk/recently/purchased (adjust TLD to taste) to download MP3s that you bought over the past 2 decades. (Many physical albums include downloads.)
Edit: I guess “adjust TLD to taste” may run afoul of your migration north of the US/CA border.
@wjt yeah, if I go to the music .com domain it just instantly redirects me to the .ca one. None of the other Amazon media services work this way. I think I found a solution tho.
doty@mcc I haven't tried to *download* it recently but my copy of Exact Audio Copy still seems to work in this forsaken year of 2024...
Chris [list of emoji]I may be the only person on earth (other than Bono) who was happy to get a free U2 album with their Mac.
(I still ended up buying the physical CD later on to have a lossless copy tho', so not that big a win. Still, the Macbook was (and still is) a nice laptop from back before the enshitification got too bad and the US dollar was at par.)
@suetanvil There is some U2 I will happily listen to. But probably not whatever they were doing in 2013.
Mood, although they're significant enough to my life that I'll buy and listen to their mediocre albums for the one or two good songs.
(As an aside, the second half of that album is pretty good, as is the one before it.)
@suetanvil I really legitimately like "New Year's Day". And their collaboration with Sinead O'Connor.
me@mcc @suetanvil
So their 1995 collaboration with Brian Eno about imaginenary movies and their sound tracks in Passengers is save to try I think? 😁
https://www.u2.com/music/album/4076
So their 1995 collaboration with Brian Eno about imaginenary movies and their sound tracks in Passengers is save to try I think? 😁
https://www.u2.com/music/album/4076
U2 was the band I got into when I Discovered Music as a teen. Which is handy because at least it's not embarrassing*.
So I pretty unreservedly love all of their output up to Pop (plus No Line on the Horizon) and can pick good bits from the remaining output.
In conclusion, I am not a reliable judge of what U2 output is good.
* There's embarrassing stuff too, but it's all CCM so it usually doesn't get airplay in public.
Also, wrt Passengers: I thought it was okay. It was a departure from their usual stuff (hence the name change) and it was interesting but it didn't have most of the stuff I loved about the band.
So far, I think the only output I've outright rejected is Edge's pandemic project of cocoa-and-slippers remakes of some of their songs.
Daniel Durrans@mcc the problem with U2 is that they will be there with or without you.
poetaster@danieldurrans I just listen to the equally painful alarm and U2 is vanquished. The dead kennedys deal with the alarm.
Listerine Lavender Mint@danieldurrans @mcc I tried to write them to stop, but they have no address because the streets have no name
Ludwig Vielfrass@danieldurrans @mcc except January 1. That’s because all is quiet on New Year’s Day.
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