I asked around so-called influencers why they were not on #Mastodon . Here are the most common replies:

1) We can't go viral on Mastodon (read as we can't game the system because humans only boost good stuff)

2) They want a algo driven system (why do you want to see angry posts all day & night?)

3) You can't make money on Mastodon (WTF that even mean?)

4) It is way too technical & confusing. Which server to join? WTF is the server?

Only the last one is valid. The rest are all lazy reasons.

@nixCraft

The disdain for anyone that makes money through content online, is palpable. I'm not trying to change your opinion on that. I'm just pointing it out.

Going viral doesn't mean gaming the system. Most content goes viral because it is novel, entertaining, and fun.

And as I've said on here many, many times, the most viewed content on social media by far isn't angry content. It's happy/funny content. Twitter and 4chan are miserable places. TikTok and Instagram are happier places.

@nixCraft

I see a lot of replies of the form:

"You can make money on Mastodon! You just have to do A, B, and C! It works!"

And:

"We don't want influencers on Mastodon."

The thing I find funny about the "You can make money on Mastodon!" claim, is that it's almost always proclaimed by Mastodon dudes that don't make any money through their social media content, talking about people that do make money on their social media content. 0% experience, 100% confidence.πŸ™‚πŸ™ƒ

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@mekkaokereke @nixCraft oh yes you can make money here, the issue is that its not the way how asocial media monetizes, here, the users decide to spend money, users here dont get ad revenue.

@april @nixCraft

I've seen authors get roasted on here for promoting their own books.

I've seen server admins get insulted for suggesting moving to a subscription model rather than a donation model.

I haven't seen many (any?) examples of people being financially successful on Mastodon with a "here's how I did it!" tutorial with real numbers. I just see vague hand-wavings about "It's totally possible!" but when I ask for concrete examples, it gets real quiet. πŸ€·πŸΏβ€β™‚οΈ

https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113175911162464927

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] Minimum wage in NYC is $16/hr. At 52 weeks working 40 hrs a week, that's ~35K a year. Is nixCraft making $35K a year on Mastodon? I hope so! But I doubt it. If they are, how are they doing that? What mechanism are they using to be paid for their labor and craftsmanship? Donations? Subscriptions? (And $35K is not enough to cover the average 1 bedroom rent in NYC. Let alone pay for food, health insurance, clothes, and utilities). People deserve to be paid for their labor.

Hachyderm.io

@mekkaokereke I definitely make money on Mastodon but it's tricky to quantify how much because I don't really track where people come from

but as an example this post (promoting a zine I'm selling) did extremely well on Mastodon https://social.jvns.ca/@b0rk/112536122255804144

As a totally made up number I'd guess at least 25% of sales come through Mastodon. In general my sense is that there are less people on Mastodon but the people who are here are way more "engaged".

Julia Evans (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image WE DID IT. My new zine β€œHow Git Works" is out now! You can get it here for $12: https://wizardzines.com/zines/git

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@mekkaokereke personally I've never gotten any pushback for selling stuff on Mastodon though I absolutely believe other folks do
@b0rk @mekkaokereke Your discussions and engagement here make a difference. The final product was a result of community engagement, not an unrelated thing for sale. So you’ve got goodwill and trust to sell things here.