Brian BucklewSep 21, 2024
people are like degrowth isnt possible but just delete all crypto and ai farms and you degrowed a lot and nothing of value was lost
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@unormal

Nothing of value was lost, my ass. What about all the medical breakthroughs already discovered with AI? Nothing of value was lost, is what people with no creativity or vision for the future say.

Everything we use today went through the same trials of hate and fear. The car, the iPhone, even the television all were hated and feared when they were invented. Yet, they all survived and so will AI. Embrace it or get out of the way.

Yeah I get it #Mastodon hates #AI, but I don't!

But fuck #Crypto, that shit is literal air.

Sep 21, 2024 at 5:13pmWeb
Show threadMike PerhamSep 21, 2024
@jeff they’re talking about generative AI, not every flavor of AI. Gen ai is the thing that uses absurd amounts of power.
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@getalifemike that is what I am talking about as well. Gen AI sourced medical breakthroughs in the past 2 years stand alone. No doubt a lot of power is required right now, so what? This will change when better tech is invented/discovered in short time.

#Crypto needs to go though. Crypto is a pure unadulterated ponzi scheme and uses the same absurd amounts of power with less than zero benefits for the world. It is literally just air disguised as currency.

Show threadNeil E. HodgesSep 21, 2024
@unormal @jeff Aside from the car, I don't think any of those other things are as much as an ecological nightmare as AI. :/
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@tk @unormal

I don't think you know what you are talking about one bit. The car is still today an eco nightmare. Cars changed things on the same scale or maybe worse due to when cars were invented...there was no EPA regulation.

The power consumption is only an issue right now. As better power tech is invented/discovered, the consumption will get under control.

Just like the death car, the cancer causing iPhone, and the mind numbing television - things with Gen AI will get better.

We do need to start by dismantling all #Crypto infrastructure to help even things out. The crypto bro's will just have to find a new gig.

Show threadMx VerdaSep 23, 2024

@jeff @unormal
“Embrace it or get out of the way” is terrifying for multiple demographics I’m in, and more, in so many ways.

Either we all get a liveable future worth living or none of us do.

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@MxVerda OK that may have been a tad abrasive. I don't and didn't mean it like that.

Gen AI is here. There is nothing anyone can do to reverse this. So my statement meant that people should learn to help rather than blindly blocking progress. All the haters see is the power consumption requirements right now. Not a single one has offered a solution or even a fraction of one.

When I supplied a link filled with a few citations and some follow up suggestions at the bottom, I was hoping to encourage some to join the conversation. Instead, they attack me and the citations I didn't author. For those people, yes, they should get out of the way.