AcausalRobotGodif you wait this long to create me this bad of a reason, you'd better expect some re-education
Gradually_AdjustingYou know what, maybe Idiocracy won’t be the worst case scenario
I mean, Idiocracy was basically “what if party-bros ran society?” as a movie. Definitely more fun than this shit.
henfredemarsAren’t smaller, better-connected brains more likely to be from an intelligent person? I’m not sure there’s a relationship between intelligence and brain size in general.
Also, huge head does not imply large brain inside the head.
I have a big head (I needed to pick the bigger helmets when I went gokarting) so yes, there is a huge relationship between IQ and brain size. Don’t mock my chunky noggin please.
N = 1
Look out, this guy’s most people.
uses my superior vision, no caliper needed
That you felt to point out what you think is a mistake shows me you have an inferior skull. You might even have the blood of the worst people (The Dutch, the creators of the infernal word LOL, Colonizing the sea, and Big Brother), in you. :P
My mom dropped me on my head when I was a baby and I still have the dent.
Don’t worry only skull size on birth matters, else we could just take normal kids and inflate their skulls with pump.
V0ldekJesus christ mate, they’re listening! Don’t give them ideas!
We have seen what they think we talk about vs what we actually talk about, and they def are not listening ;)
sc_griffithyour gigaweight pate
BigMuffin69I said please no bully, y you bully?
it’s a compliment boo 😘
I don’t know who that is. I still use a rotary phone.
Our brain shape science basically boils down to:
- missing big pieces usually makes it work less well.
- folds and creases seem good?
- Not too much fluid!
- Not too little either!
- front part seems pretty important for thinking.
- middle too.
- “stuff” in the brain is almost always bad for thinking. Like rocks and things. Neurons, blood and the right blend of fluids are great.
- phrenology is pretty wrong. Like, super wrong.
Beyond that, we know a bunch of stuff about brains and neurons and how they all piece together, but just based on lookin’, we’re pretty bad at judging a person based on their head and brain.
missing big pieces usually makes it work less well.
I fucking love science.
instructions unclear; adding rocks to brain for hard thinking
bitofhopeTired of people stereotyping metalheads as dumb smh
No! That will probably do something bad! Or nothing, depending on complex factors we’ve not totally figured out!
At least wash it first and take some before and after images.
Based on my neurology classes, I feel like we have some idea what some parts of the brain do. Obviously full on experiments would be unethical, but we can like, observe which neural pathways formed in people with the same life style (so Taxi Drivers have larger and more developed sections focused on navigation). We can observe what happens to people who take the same kinds of damage, and occasionally we get lucky and we can see what happens to people with grievous injuries or rare maladies. Also, we can do experiments on creatures like snails which far less complex brains.
The brain is certainly an interesting a weird black box, but we do have outs to learn some things
Oh, totally. We legitimately know tons of stuff about brains, including what most parts are typically used for. We just can’t tell much based on eyeball lookin’, we’ve gotta get in there with FMRI and EEGs.
I’m purely referring to head/brain size or gross physical properties and how they relate to intelligence.
Show a neurologist a photograph of a random brain and ask them to assess the owners intelligence.
The only thing they really have to go on is that if you can photograph someone’s brain, signs aren’t typically looking great for them.
They’ll be making guesses based on vague correlations, and also getting fidgety about what you even mean by intelligence, since that’s also not a simple measure.
Oh, I forgot to mention that we can also do some weird experiments with rats. Teach a bunch of rats how to do a maze, or complete some task, and then surgically remove different bits of each of their brains.
Unless you really mess them up, they usually remember how to do the maze.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5001904/
It’s why missing a chunk won’t make the neurologist definitely say it’s impaired someone’s intelligence.
npr.org/…/neuroplasticity-plasticity-glass-half-f…
It’s an extreme case, but definitely indicative of how visual examination is just not great for assessing brain function.
Still searching for the engram
For nearly a century neurobiologists have searched for the engram - the neural representation of a memory. Early studies showed that the engram is widely distributed both within and across brain areas and is supported by interactions among large networks ...
Yeah, brain plasticity is really fascinating. One of the guys I work with, its the only way to teach him anything. He had a heroin overdose like 15 years ago. He has basically no short term memory, but I’ve been able to get him to retain things via repetition. Mostly repetitive physical tasks, but social media, with advertisers constantly pinging him, has also been a very powerful reminder. He’s big into the EDM scene and he remembers events, both past and future, because social media keeps buzzing him and reminding him. I wish there was a way to harness that power for good.
But obviously, I’ve never seen his brain before.
Feels like I’ve heard this rhetoric before…
Aw, man… Guess it’s time to play some Disco Elysium again!
His time has come!
e8d79Thought Gained: Advanced Race Theory
Wait no they’re talking about Race Theory Criticality Events
blakestaceyshot:
The upper bound for how long to pause AI is only a century, because “farming” (artificially selecting) higher-IQ humans could probably create competent IQ 200 safety researchers.
It just takes C-sections to enable huge heads and medical science for other issues that come up.
chaser:
Indeed, the bad associations ppl have with eugenics are from scenarios much less casual than this one
going full “villain in a Venture Bros. episode who makes the Monarch feel good by comparison”:
Sure, I don’t think it’s crazy to claim women would be lining up to screw me in that scenario
Lol, the guy goes normal weird high school level shitposter when he has the slightest pushback.
Considering that the idea of the singularity of AGI was the exponential function going straight up, I don’t think this persons understands the problem. Lol, LMAO foomed the scorpion.
(Also that is some gross weird eugenics shit).
Smh, why do I feel like I understand the theology of their dumb cult better than its own adherents? If you believe that one day AI will foom into a 10 trillion IQ super being, then it makes no difference at all whether your ai safety researcher has 200 IQ or spends their days eating rocks like the average LW user.
Oh absolutely! This is the entire delusion collapsing on itself.
Bro, if intelligence is, as the cult claims, fully contained self improvement, --you could never have mattered by definition–. If the system is closed, and you see the point of convergence up ahead… what does it even fucking matter?
This is why Pascal’s wager defeats all forms of maximal utilitarianism. Again, if the system is closed around a set of known alternatives, then yes. It doesn’t matter anymore. You don’t even need intelligence to do this. You can do with sticks and stones by imagining away all the other things.
Eurgh!
MasterNerdYay, let’s fight AI with eugenics!
flere-imsahoyet another programmer who imagines that having computer science baccalaureate gives him an insight into human biology. sigh.
Much like a network, the brain is a series of tubes.
To have the confidence of a white CS undergrad…
double check that your rubbers didn’t get punctured.
Extra wrinkly*, for your partner’s pleasure
*the brain, that is
Selective breeding, eh? There’s a word for this and it was vouched for by a guy with a distinct style of moustache.
skillissuerin an attempt to persuade normal people to take them seriously, they imagined themselves to be important enough to have their own version of bene gesserit. the sheer fucking hubris and nerve of these people,
also that “other issues that come up” means here “draw the rest of the fucking owl” but they don’t even have crayons
wanted to emulate bene gesserit, ended doing bene tleilax
Wait, I totally had something for this…
“Bene Jizzerit”
thank you, that’s perfectly awful :-)
mtraven@AcausalRobotGod I worked at a company (Quixey) this guy started. It did not go well or end well.
Interesting, I knew a guy who worked there for a bit.
sleepybisexualHis “farming” idea is just eugenics
Somehow he makes it sound even more misanthropic
What does misanthropic mean?
Also isn’t IQ in general kinda inaccurate?
misanthropic means person hating; possessed of contempt and malevolence toward humans as both individuals and a class. connotations of bitterness or cruelty
For me, it’s the complete non-mention of uterus-owning people*, as if they are just a means to the end.
*I couldn’t come up with a gender-inclusive term for this that didn’t make me sound like a monster so apologies
geriksonThis will include dudes with multiple uterii in their freezer but they’re probably outliers.
ah, yes, I forgot to put in a second footnote about my neighbour Brian. We’d call the cops but it turns out he’s the local sheriff.
Honestly not the most succinct guidance, but here’s an Amerocentric style guide: styleguide.transjournalists.org/#neutral-health-t…
My best attempt to follow this advice produces: people who can get pregnant. Works for me!