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mr_daemonSo, 86box has gotten General Modem Emulation in 4.2, and you can absolutely dial up with SLIP to access the internet over SLiRP, and it absolutely works.
Dialog Boxes you have not seen in Quite Some Time, volume 5.
Et que s'appelorio Johann@mr_daemon please don't trigger me like that without content warning. Some things are better left in my teenage years. 
Adam ♿@mr_daemon not at that speed, definitely.
@voltagex It uses whatever the serial port is configured as underneath, I could absolutely use something more... period appropriate
But also, I don't _love_ suffering hahaha
simonbp@mr_daemon Can you set your phone line quality to be randomized, so you've got to listen to squawks to know if you successfully connected at 56k, or if you're in the sad 33.6k zone?
@simonbp My favorite was being able tell which 56k variant was being negociated by how the tail end sounded
Viss@mr_daemon oh hell yes. dialup overlay networks to secred bbses!
@Viss You super can also straight up dial an IP address through the emulated modem and reach a BBS that way, too
shinypb@mr_daemon Wow. That Details >> in particular is taking me back
morph@mr_daemon You could disconnect from the internet back then? Damn, must’ve been nice
Joacim Jacobsson@mr_daemon does it make the noise.
Jawaka@mr_daemon This brings back memories. The Internet promised so much back then. What did we get? Trump and Musk.
Kata 📎@mr_daemon For some reason, I kept this screenshot from 2000-07-12. Probably because I was so hyped that I could be online for 4 hours (!) and download 40 MBs (!), as this was our first flatrate internet access. 😅 I think this was it (german article from May 2000): https://www.pcwelt.de/article/1125263/sonnet-flatrate-fuer-79-mark.html
I don’t remember why it shows 115.200 bps on my shot. Was this ISDN channel bonding (we had that for a while)? Or was it a modem and that’s just the speed of the serial link? No idea anymore how any of this worked. 🤔
Bart Allen@movq @mr_daemon that's really awesome you kept that. In 2002 my family jumped straight from 64k to 10Mbps coax baby! Still loved explaining it to my parents "You mean we can be on the phone at the same time as using the Internet?!"
@barryallen2023 10 Mbps Internet uplink in 2002? Oh my goodness! 🤯 Which country was that, USA?
@movq yes it was. But don't get too excited. It didn't move past that until about 2020.
@barryallen2023 … there’s always a catch 😂
@barryallen2023 @movq When I moved to broadband from 56k v90 dial up, just having the internet "be there, always" took some time getting used to.
This is a thing I think of often. Like how when I first got on at 28.8 bauds, "I think I'm going to go SURF the INTERNET today!" was an event that you prepared for.
It felt like a grand adventure. No wonder I got hooked to the idea of computers talking to one another.
@mr_daemon Absolutely, going online was so special. Talking to computers on the other side of the globe? Whoa.
I tried “simulating” the experience 2 years ago (got the idea from https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-07-01-oldcomputerchallenge-v2-rtc.html). While it didn’t spark a lot of nostalgia (the novelty is long gone; I even included the modem dial-up sound in my setup, which was cute, but it doesn’t mean anything anymore), it’s still an interesting experience. Makes you realize how much time you spend online doing “nothing”. 20-30 minutes a day to send/receive messages/emails and looking up infos was more than enough. 🤔
@movq I did have a moment trying this where I was done doing the online thing on my Windows 98 VM and thought "Oh yeah, better disconnect", which is an old reflex I hadn't felt in quite some time, and highlighted this.
In the late dial up era, most of my time online was hours spent playing MUD/MUCK systems (text MMOs, more or less) while going through my GetRight download queue very slowly, one megabyte at a time.
Both are similar, yet different to today, somehow.
Neil Darlow 
@mr_daemon Ok then, admit it, how many of you had the USRobotics Sportster modem because... you had to have that speed? 😊
@neil I started at 28.8 bauds and my friend down the road was at 14.4, but he still maintained a sense of superiority because he had a genuine external US Robotics hardmodem.
Leaving it connected overnight to download the Diablo demo in all of its nearly 100mb glory sure made me crave something faster
felidoptera (chridd)@mr_daemon My Windows 98 computer never had internet access, so this is reminding me more of the Illegal Operation dialog.
GergovieQue de souvenirs de plantages, galères, configs, redemarrages, re-essai, re plantage ...
La belle époque ! 😉
@Gergovie Absolument, configurer ce bazar la correctement dans le contexte de l'émulateur ma rappelé cette partie la de l'expérience avec une grande violence
C'était pas désagréable
Badscrew@mr_daemon 115!
Fancy
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Rock'n'Roll_φapy 🔻@mr_daemon
Ah, nostalgie, nostalgie ....
Ah, nostalgie, nostalgie ....
Dave@mr_daemon Does. It make. The *noise*.
doboprobodyneAahh yes the days when the floppy disk was more than just an icon, and when the modems still sang the songs if their people...
I'm tempted to change my ring tone now... Something something people connecting to me.
LaF0rge@mr_daemon wait until you see those with real Modems making modem sounds again.
@LaF0rge I would love nothing more
Finnley DolfinYou’re making me feel old.
Phil M0OFX@FinnleyDolfin @mr_daemon I have a Nortel BCM50 and a pile of modems, and I'm going to be writing a softmodem soon...
murz@mr_daemon does it come with The Sound?
@murz unfortunately, since it just does SLIP and the modem doesn't need to dial anything, it doesn't :(
But also since its bidirectional and you use it to dial into the vm, that vastly makes up for it
Kevin Karhan 
@mr_daemon anyone else can hear this image?
Andrew Drake@mr_daemon I never saw a bps number that high 😢
Lona Theartlav@mr_daemon Heh. More like never - the highest i ever got on the spaghetti phone wires of the day was a tad over 33,600.
Chickerino@mr_daemon yo what? that's sick, im totally gonna try this out, finally gonna move from pcem
Stylus@mr_daemon oh god you just made me think about SLiRP. I remember running it on university dialup ca 1993.
Flamekebab@mr_daemon hark at thee with a bonded ISDN line!
@Flamekebab hahah it's emulated, so that's just the serial port speeds, but since those were all often SLIP I can live a bit of the experience through it
Daniel M Karlsson@mr_daemon Classic Dialog Box right there.
SoNick_RND@mr_daemon "Dialog boxes you've never seen" (I mean 115,200, my maximum was like 28800)
UkeBLCatboy@mr_daemon hilarious 😂
But so far I haven't been able to successfully run *a single* game correctly in either this or pcem. Dungeon keeper 2, starfleet command 2, tellurian defense, nothing worked. I really hope they fix the voodoo 3 emulation 😂
@UkeBLCatboy I have it working really well on my setup, but it took a a few tries with different configs.
The biggest thing was the drivers.
If you don't mind downloading untrusted binaries for windows 98 from some random guy on the internet, I uploaded a copy of the iso I made with them, below.
Give them a try, they work great on 98SE for me, and I can run the Unreal castle flyby with Glide and it runs just like it did on the actual hardware. A great time.
https://mega.nz/file/0RMhUKYI#fuTI939gaolR881wlZOX2cGE3VuVGAjxG005EAJHL88
Silk_Flame (she/her) 😷@mr_daemon win 3.1 fkashbacks. Thanks. 😳😄