Okay something I've been thinking about.
Disclaimer: These are my own thoughts about myself, which are often confusing, but in no way have anything to do with how you feel about it yourself. This is mostly me working out feelings and trying to get context. I'm curious what other people do with these kinds of thoughts.

I have a disease that is sometimes under control, and other times it is not. It can cause Chronic pain, that can be anywhere from a mild annoyance to stuck in bed. But if you asked me, Do I have a disability, my instant reaction would be No. I know logically that it totally meets the parameters, it can really interfere with my life when it's bad, but it's not something that is visible, so a huge part of me says, you're not allowed to claim that. Now this is silly, I know a lot of disabilities aren't visible, and I would never discriminate against someone else because they don't have a visible disability. Another part of me is afraid of the label, not because I have a problem with it, but once you use that word, people look at you differently, they start making assumptions about you, they start thinking they can give you advice or decide your worth. And I feel like a wimp, because it's brave to say Hey, I am disabled, but often I don't feel "disabled" and I realize, like fuck, I'm falling into this trap of deciding what a disability means. I feel pulled in different directions, I'm a person with issues, disability will be a part of everyone's life at some point, I'm just me. For people who rely on someone else to decide if they're "disabled enough" to get the tiny amount of income their government provides this is a whole other bucket of hornets. Then you're forced into telling strangers intimate details of your struggles so you can support yourself and your family, with a really good chance of being denied. I mean, Fuck, it's hard for it to not sound like a bad word when you're treated like a criminal for health issues. I'm rambling on, so I'll just ask:

So, how do you all feel, does the label bother you, empower you, something entirely different? Tell me your thoughts!

@RickiTarr

I don't know if my situation is the similar enough to speak up but I'll give it a shot and if you find it's not valuable I'll apologize a whole lot.

I struggled with this concept once I finally realized I have Autism. It's not physical impairment but it does makes things difficult for me that are *easier* for other people. I feel guilty about that sometimes but more often than not it's been a liberation admitting to myself and others.

@RickiTarr @RickiTarr I am lucky to be neuro-normative and without any chronic illness (other than old, fat, out of shape). My GF suffers from crippling anxiety, depression and ADHD executive dysfunction. There are good days. There bad days - and when its bad, she literally cannot function (no spoons!)

Noone else knows what its like to live in your head, your body. So noone else gets to say how you define how you _classify_ the living in your head and body.

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@RickiTarr
If you feel your impediments to leading a "regular" life classify as a disability, then I'm ok with that. I'm ok with expanding our definition of disability to _include_ that. It shouldn't be anyone else's business. Anyone who objects to counting a chronic illness or depression or any of these "non-traditional" disabilities alongside the traditional physical ones, simply hasn't had to live with one.

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@RickiTarr
We have to normalize the ability to say "I have a disability" and leave it at that. There is no reason - other than "you're an asshole" - to gatekeep supports and services for disabilities of _any_ kind. Noone should have to "proove" their disability, that's bullshit.

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@RickiTarr Well shit. I haven't ever considered myself as having a disability.. until identifying with every word you just said.
I've always told myself that I'm not because of that good day that miraculously happens occasionally.
Yes, I have to plan my entire existence as someone carrying the disruption and inconvenience of it and often that isn't enough, but then there's that good day.. 🤔
@dabertime Like I can survive most of the time lol, but like I'm grateful for the health I have and the stuff I can do. I know others have it so much worse, so I feel bad.

@RickiTarr I use it and accept it but I do have a friend in a similar place as you. For me, it is just part of me. I will wiggle it at my employer at times, like a stick.

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@RickiTarr I was always taught to label someone with a disability, a "person with a disability" because you see that they are a person first and foremost. I know that this is obvious to most, but I just had to mention it. Oh, and if there are people who think that a disability has to be visible to be called one, then you need a mental check... But anyhow, Ricki I'm just glad that you have your disease under control!!
@RickiTarr I never considered myself as disabled until about two years ago. Until then, I considered myself regularly temporarily inconvenienced. But looking back, I’ve had disabilities all my life. I couldn’t walk without tripping myself as a kid, I had debilitating migraines which lasted for months on end, I’ve had a hip issue which, when it flares up, leaves me incapable of walking without terrible pain, and I’ve had crippling gut issues since my teens. Now I will readily admit to being disabled. I’m not ashamed of it. It’s just part of who I am. But neither do I want to be any more disabled that I currently am. I fight to maintain and improve my health and mobility. It’s been a lifelong struggle.
@Shanmonster Right, in the end, it will be a part of your life at some point.
@RickiTarr My wife is in a similar predicament. She's usually fine at home, but her disease can be triggered by environmental factors which frequently are only noticeable after she's been affected. Because she can't literally point to a trigger someone else can see & she's fine beforehand, she doesn't like to mention it at all. She only brings it up when she feels "forced" to by a boss or someone, & she has never once referred to it as a disability for much the same reasoning you have.
@RickiTarr Additionally, she recognizes that the word "disability" has additional stigmas attached it when it's coupled with her being visibly overweight. She can't hide that and deals with all those associated negative stereotypes, and she doesn't want to layer "disability" stereotypes on top of that.
@SKleefeld Oh lord yes, people are downright mean about it!!!
@RickiTarr I'm totally blind (or (legally blind as the US folks call it) and I announce as such to anyone who asks. I don't often say 'Disabled/Have a disability' even though of course, I do. If I don't have my cane out, and if you're not paying attention to my eyes though, it's not a hugely visible disability. I'm not ashamed of it or who I am, it is what it is, but the way I've always chosen to announce it is 'I'm blind.
@FreakyFwoof @RickiTarr legal blind isn't totally blind - legally blind means that you have some vision but below the threshold where federal law definites you as being blind.
@Amoshias @RickiTarr From what I've heard from my VI friends in the states it could be either. Interesting.
@FreakyFwoof @RickiTarr hmmm. Maybe - I've never heard it to mean totally blind but I'm certainly not an expert. And I am a lawyer so I'm probably more likely to err on the side of what seems like a legal definition :-)
@FreakyFwoof @RickiTarr Is there such a thing as being illegally blind? Legally blind just sounds ridiculous in my opinion.
@FreakyFwoof @RickiTarr I would say I'm totally blind.
@benblatch @RickiTarr Don't think I disagree with you, because I definitely don't. From the first time I heard that I thought it's a damn stupid phrase.
We don't say 'Legally blind' in the UK.

@RickiTarr in a fit of frustration, I asked my doctor, "Am I REALLY disabled?"

She turned it back to me with, "do your health issues affect your day to day life?"

"Yes."

"Then you're disabled."

Like most other things, disability is a spectrum. J is far more disabled than I am and always will be. He gets accommodations that I benefit from as his caregiver (SSDI, handicapped parking, etc), but that I'll never qualify for on my own. I'm lucky that I'm able to take care of him for now.

@tirrimas @RickiTarr many years ago a trainer in the field said he preferred the term handicapped, as that only referred to one aspect. Disabled carries the implication that it is total or at least very substantial, whereas handicap could just mean that you’re missing a finger or a thumb which makes typing difficult. Some handicaps would make you eligible for support and some wouldn’t.
I don’t like this binary disabled or not disabled 

@RickiTarr
No I don't have a problem with the label, and never had.
It never occurred to me that I might have issues with the label (and I'm not sure if I'd call it a 'label' - it's just a descriptor).
If anything - although I've not thought about it before - I embrace it.

The first time I used the disabled label was when I was told that my hearing loss entitled me to a UK Disabled Rail Pass. I also consider my recurring depression and anxiety to be a disability. I also have intermittent IBS which is disabling when it occurs to.

@RickiTarr
It's difficult to see yourself as disabled when you k ow what all you can do. It's much easier to berate your shortcomings, even when they are caused by your disability.
@RickiTarr

The only time I use "disability" for myself is on employment form's relevant sections. It used to only be my epilepsy, but I guess the six-figures-per-year-in-treatments arthritis probably counts, now, too? Dunno... Stuff that effects only me – stuff that's invisible – doesn't feel worthy of the term, somehow?

And, yes, epilepsy is sort of invisible ...until you have a seizure in front of others. But, it has the possibility of catastrophically affecting others (e.g., discovering –while driving in heavy high-speed traffic – your medication isn't actually working), so more worthy of alerting others to?

@RickiTarr I 've had similar, fluctuating chronic illness, can mostly pass as normal, until I got so consistently sick I couldn't. That was a shocker to the psyche.

Things I learned:

Internalized ableism - shame about being vulnerable is socially constructed horseshit.

Internalized capitalism - just because I am not "productive" doesn't mean I am not valuable.

Disability Pride - that community has changed my whole framing, is very inclusive, and I can use my bits of ableness to advocate.

@vlrny This is fantastic, thanks for sharing.
@RickiTarr it was a beautifully vulnerable post, helped me consolidate similar thoughts that have been rolling round my brain, so thanks back atcha! 💖
@vlrny @RickiTarr damn, the internalized capitalism... never thought of it that way but that is TOTALLY ME. my brain says i have no job, no career, therefore i am a total waste of space and oxygen who only costs other people money. i am so fucking cruel to myself.
@vlrny @RickiTarr and obviously i would never say or even think that about anyone else... just me.

@rothko @vlrny @RickiTarr

Yeah I went through a phase where I flipped around and used the language of the internalized capitalism to shake it off a bit.

I'd list all the things I'm pissed off about myself or where I'm feeling like I'm failing, but I'd say them about "my employee" (me).

If it sounded utterly gratuitously cruel to expect an employee to do what I was demanding of myself, well, that told me I needed to back TF off on the self-critique.

@MichaelTBacon @vlrny @RickiTarr yeah, yeah. i don't do so well with CBT...
@MichaelTBacon @vlrny @RickiTarr sorry, that was a bit rude.

@rothko

You're in a bad spot. Don't worry about it. I hope it gets better.

@rothko @vlrny Yeah it wasn't something I really thought about

@RickiTarr I'm gonna come at this differently:

No matter what happens you have to be good with you first

Disabled or no it doesn't matter... you are you. You are awesome, someone you want to be or strive for or maybe you are working on it.

Now disability is subjective but anything that makes daily life harder is probably it.

But again you have too be good with you FIRST before you think on that... because if you are it doesn't matter

You can do/be anything ✊

@RickiTarr I am disabled. Growing up nobody acknowledged my disabilities because they were invisible. I just got punished for not being able to do things instead. The amount of massive rage I have for this is hard to quantify.
I am disabled.
I cannot do math well, no matter how much you punish me.
I am disabled.
I had to teach myself how to make letters not scramble because nobody would help me.
I am disabled. I take medication so I can remember things & stay focused.
@RickiTarr
I am disabled. And no matter how much society wants to ignore me and shove me into a conformist little hole, I cannot ever fit in.
I am disabled. And I demand the world see me as I am and deal with it.

@RickiTarr I fall into the same broad category, and often into the same thinking. I usually refuse to think of myself as disabled, but I basically don't want to give myself permission to be disabled. I take time for myself when it's bad enough. I'm lucky enough to be in a career where I've mostly been able to do that when necessary. I've been very privileged in that and other ways.

But I don't allow myself to judge others. I do not and cannot know what their experience is.

@RickiTarr Identifying as Disabled gives me community.

I know I share something with other Disabled people, even if their disabilities are very different from mine. I can advocate for them when I have the spoons, and they can advocate for me when they do.

Do I feel the sting of ableist society's stigma that says a Disabled person is worth less, worth-less, undeserving? Sure I do. It makes it easier to fight it when I know I'm fighting on behalf of others besides myself.

@RickiTarr A few years ago, when I learned that major depression is considered a disability, I began checking the “disabled” box on anonymous surveys. At this point all my symptoms are well controlled, so I guess I think of myself more as just potentially disabled.

@RickiTarr The word disability doesn't live without context. What's the need to use or have the label? In one situation you will consider yourself disabled and in others not.

As far as discrimination the ADA defines disability very broadly so that essentially everyone who should be covered is covered. No one can deny you certain things using "because you are disabled" as a reason.

In the workplace, disability grants you access to accommodation which is what you need to be able to do your job, so your disability and accommodations live within a specific circumstance. In many work circumstances, not disabled, and in others disabled because an accommodation is needed.

When comes to identity which is harder for people. For myself, I am a person. I have a unique set of strengths and weaknesses. They are different than yours. Not better, not worse. I do not feel a need to explain this to myself in any specific language. I accept myself for whatever I am.

@RickiTarr Thanks for sharing. My thoughts:
1) Disability is only a bad word when it's in the mouths of ableists who think they know better; who decide who is disabled & who isn't
2) The label doesn't bother me, because I'm comfortable with the term I choose for myself: "Hard of Hearing"; not Deaf, not Hearing Impaired
3) As far as empowering? I have tried to advocate for myself in previous jobs & it was horrible - impossible to lip-read due to pandemic masking, and I do rely on that.
@RickiTarr Here’s my view, we are all just temporarily able. At some point in our lives we’ll be living with a disability. So if we could shift the thinking to being temporarily able it would be great. As old athletes will tell you, you’ll have injuries and you learn to train and live with them.

@RickiTarr I'm severely hearing impaired since birth. It's only recently that I started accepting that I am disabled.

It was never called a disability when I was young. It was as if "disabled" was reserved for people with visible disabilities. The stigma of that label is real.

But it *is* a disability. It has a profound effect on how I navigate the world. There are many things I cannot do or enjoy. I am disabled, and there's no shame in that. But I, too, feel that doubt about using the term.