LoriHCMy fellow Americans, I have voted for many Democrats, along with Green Party, Independent, Libertarian, non-partisan, and even Republican candidates (ok, one Republican candidate) over the years. This year, it is of paramount importance that you vote for Democrats in every race, especially the Presidential contest. Please, I beg of you: Do not anoint a king. Do not allow the planet to burn. Do not permit the repudiation of inalienable rights for ALL of us.
Denis de Palatis@lorihc speaking from France where things are slowly spiraling towards something out of control, I can totally relate. đ„
OtownKim@denisdepalatis @lorihc So sorry! Le Pen is scary!
@otownKim thanks! we still have a chance to make this not suck more than it does on Sunday though. Letâs hope second round of the election goes better than the first. I still have faith we can make it, but the example of the US a few years back with Trump is making a lot of people really nervous. đ„
Dominic Hopton@lorihc for real change, it needs to be democrats â real ones, not those play-acting as one â winning majorities in all branches. Itâs the only way for real change to be lawfully enacted.
Maybe a windfall would motivate them to getting it done in the first two years before a massive swing back the other way in the mid terms, as appears to be tradition.
Zsolt@lorihc Iâm with you, Lori.
Mast0b1tMast0b1t (@[email protected])
Re-upping this in order to explain how we got to this point in the đșđž. https://awscommunity.social/@mastobit/112527850607368106 In short, there is no real opposition party within this #corporate #duopoly. To suggest #VoteBlueNoMatterWho is an understandable act of desperation. But to this point, the #Democrats have not been bulwarks of #democracy even under supermajorities. Voting đłïž alone wonât do it. *YOU*, yes *you*, need to start unions â and run for office. Unite. Flood the political zone. https://represent.us #uspol
Brian DearIn a perfect world, say, 200,000 Democrats from other states would get up and MOVE EN MASSE to frickinâ Wyoming and work remotely but more importantly REGISTER TO VOTE IN WYOMING THEN VOTE DEM AS A BLOC and frickinâ take TWO SENATE SEATS as well as a couple more electoral college seats.
If only Dem voters had the zeal, energy, persistence, and go-for-it-ness of Redditâs DIAMONDHAND APES OF $GME.
THAT would be action. THAT would be something.
Jon@brianstorms @lorihc will you do this yourself? Between financial, family, and risk aspects ("Hey honey! Let's move to a state where most people hate us, and you don't have rights over your own body!") it's not surprising it doesn't happen. Heck, Libertarians tried to do this to a town in IIRC NH a while back and failed utterly, which would have required far fewer people.
I've had the same fantasy, but it would need someone able to fund each family to the tune of $50K to make it possible.
dxpack@lorihc @marcoarment Sure ok, but then what happens? Every indication is: nothing. Biden commissioned a working group report on âwhat to do about the Supreme Courtâ 3 years ago. And he shelved it. Is the point of Democrats to slowly allow Republicans to destroy things instead of quickly, and then campaign for money in perpetuity? So theyâre just a money extraction tool?
@lorihc @marcoarment Should I vote for a Democrat that has never said they will do something? Or a Democrat that has said they will, and then had all the opportunity but did nothing? Why? Because now the Republicans mean it? Theyâve meant it for decades - and the Democrats have never done anything. Thereâs a reason for that: they donât need to because theyâll extract money along the way and will get enough votes to satisfy their need to continue extracting money and doing nothing.
@lorihc @marcoarment It sucks. But itâs the reality. Thereâs no point in pretending otherwise.
Jan@dxpack @lorihc @marcoarment as a German I can tell you that it only takes one election to go bad to destroy literally everything.
Kyle McMahonThis:
âhad all the opportunityâ
is pretty ignorant.
Liberals have not had the Supreme Court in decades.
Even when Democrats have had the White House and Congress, they still donât have âall the opportunityâ because the Senate is supermajority rule. Even if it werenât, the composition of the Senate overweights rural interests.
Itâs *still* important to elect Democrats because the alternative is worse. Not accomplishing as much as *you* would like is not the worst outcome.
@kmcmahon The Democrats canât do anything because theyâve never had the power to do anything? Tell that to the Republicans who somehow had the power to block a Supreme Court nominee. Somehow had the power to remove the filibuster when they needed to. Democrats could have done just a ridiculous number of things - but they havenât and they wonât. Because that is not their purpose - they keep showing you that, and you keep saying âI gotta vote harder!â Honestly, itâs pathetic.
gormster@dxpack @lorihc @marcoarment I want you to imagine, for a second, that you live in Australia.
You are required to vote. Itâs compulsory. You are also required to vote for every candidate - you must place a number in every box on your ballot, indicating your preferences.
Whoâs coming out ahead of who?
I donât believe for a second you genuinely have no preference. I donât believe you wouldnât put one of them ahead of the other.
Thatâs what youâre doing here. Your voting system is busted but we all know the two parties that will emerge are D and R, and thatâs the preference youâve got to express.
@gormster @lorihc @marcoarment I genuinely donât think you have a grasp of the reality. Do I prefer someone who has done nothing and will do nothing? Why would I prefer that person? You act like *this time it will be different, I promise* - but youâre living in a fantasy world. It will not be different. Nothing points you in that direction. But you think it anyway.
@dxpack @lorihc @marcoarment i don't think you got what i was saying, although i also think your characterisation is pretty unfair; i see a lot of stories about what the current administration is doing and i don't even live there.
but like - you know what current guy is like, because he's been there for a while. you know what other guy is like, because he was also there for a while. are you genuinely telling me you have no preference for the policies and behaviours of one over the other? i don't believe you. you're lying to me and to yourself.
@gormster @lorihc @marcoarment You are attributing goodness to an organization that has demonstrated time and again that they have no interest in goodness. Democrats are not going to stop Republicans - theyâve proven that time and again. Their goal is the extract money. How can you possibly imagine that is better? Itâs just a scam. Their methodology is to convince you they will stop the Republicans - and then they donât do it. How many times must you be fooled before you recognize it?
@dxpack @lorihc @marcoarment what are you talking about?
like genuinely, it's like youâre not reading what i'm saying at all. are you an AI?
Granneman đĄ@dxpack @lorihc @marcoarment If you genuinely cannot see all that Democrats have done for people in the Biden administration, then please, don't vote. But don't act like there's no difference between the parties in terms of what they've done and what they will do. That's just willful ignorance.
@Granneman @lorihc @marcoarment I didnât say anything remotely like that. You sound like you are regurgitating talking points.
Naman@lorihc @marcoarment Your fellow Americans donât read mastodon.